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coolniit n00b
Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 55 Location: Mumbai ,India
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: Why doesn't Gentoo have custom google search like ubuntu |
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Hi Guys,
Recently while helping a friend i saw that in firefox default homepage is set as http://start.ubuntu.com/9.10/
Searching shows google adds at the top.
Why doesn't gentoo do the same. It'll surely generate some revenue which will help in development.
I guess there is a good user base so why not use it to advantage.
Thanks
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slackline Veteran
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Posts: 1471 Location: /uk/sheffield
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Simple, not everyone installs Firefox.
Other browsers I've used under Gentoo include...
galeon
lynx
links
opera
Have a poke around /usr/portage/www-client to see what others there are.
Besides which, the first thing I do after installing Firefox anywhere is to change the default homepage
slack _________________ "Science is what we understand well enough to explain to a computer. Art is everything else we do." - Donald Knuth |
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coolniit n00b
Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 55 Location: Mumbai ,India
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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well it can be done with other browsers as well.
Also i wont chnage the homepage if i know it's benefiting the gentoo community financially. |
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yngwin Retired Dev
Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 4572 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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We have a policy of not doing customizations. You get vanilla firefox, vanilla kde, vanilla gnome. We don't add Gentoo icons and wallpapers. That being said, there is nothing wrong with offering optional customizations, that users can choose to install on top of the vanilla packages we offer.
We could make a Gentoo start page, and people who want to use it could then choose to make it their homepage. _________________ "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
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vincent- Retired Dev
Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 415 Location: Valencia (Spain)
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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yngwin wrote: | We have a policy of not doing customizations. You get vanilla firefox, vanilla kde, vanilla gnome. We don't add Gentoo icons and wallpapers. That being said, there is nothing wrong with offering optional customizations, that users can choose to install on top of the vanilla packages we offer. |
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yngwin wrote: | We could make a Gentoo start page, and people who want to use it could then choose to make it their homepage. |
Using "branding" USE flag |
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djdunn l33t
Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 810
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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i dont like the branding so much reminds me of redhat _________________ “Music is a moral law. It gives a soul to the Universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, a charm to sadness, gaiety and life to everything. It is the essence of order, and leads to all that is good and just and beautiful.”
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AllenJB Veteran
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 1285
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Lack of manpower. This is both the reason why this hasn't happened and also the only real cause of development issues in Gentoo.
The money from such a scheme won't solve the manpower issues, thus it's not worth it. |
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Strowi l33t
Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Posts: 656 Location: Bonn
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:34 am Post subject: |
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hi,
i aggree that this wouldn't solve the manpower issue.
BUT as i had to take a closer look at karmic, i think they did a very good job on the overall default design. I find it quite appealing, and people might identify themself a bit more with gentoo ('corporate identity'-wise). _________________ --
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AllenJB Veteran
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 1285
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Strowi wrote: | hi,
i aggree that this wouldn't solve the manpower issue.
BUT as i had to take a closer look at karmic, i think they did a very good job on the overall default design. I find it quite appealing, and people might identify themself a bit more with gentoo ('corporate identity'-wise). |
The problem with an overall design for Gentoo is manpower. With binary distros, it's easy - you've got one version (of one primary desktop environment). With Gentoo, you've got every current version of every desktop environment. And minor updates might require fixes to the theming. I feel I have plenty of choice with the standard available themes for my desktop environment in the tree.
I'd much rather time was spent on real bugs and speedy release of new versions (Gentoo's KDE 4.3.4 release announcement hit my feeds before KDEs did!) |
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yngwin Retired Dev
Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 4572 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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With respect to branding, I think it's also because Gentoo appeals more to hardcore geeks, and less to artistic types. And there are apparently no people that care enough. If you feel up to it, feel free to start putting together some branding. And if it's of sufficient quality, we devs will make it available in portage. That's the way things happen around here. We're a completely volunteer organization. If you think you can contribute, you are very welcome. _________________ "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
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synn n00b
Joined: 11 Dec 2009 Posts: 25
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Why doesn't gentoo do the same. It'll surely generate some revenue which will help in development. |
I was unaware of this that there is revenue generation by using google search in desktop apps. I heard that google adsense doesn't allow that. Do you mean any official contract ? |
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gasparov Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 105
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:41 am Post subject: |
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yngwin wrote: | With respect to branding, I think it's also because Gentoo appeals more to hardcore geeks, and less to artistic types. |
AKA: With respect to branding, I think it's also because Gentoo appeals more to people that fail miserably whenever they wanna get laid, and less to ex windows pussies. |
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coolniit n00b
Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 55 Location: Mumbai ,India
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Seems like "Branding" USE flag has been introduced for this purpose |
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Corona688 Veteran
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