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aramis_qc
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 Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject: Questionning about SLIM |
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I recently was surfing on lxde.org. Looking at the new display manager (Lxdm), I was surprised to read the followings :
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Pardon me for making such a naive question… but in what way xdm wasn’t suitable or was lacking features to be a display manager? And what about slim?
Posted 10 Sep 2009 at 12:53 pm
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Slim isn’t being ddveloped anymore & XDM really isn’t that pretty…
Posted 10 Sep 2009 at 2:19 pm
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The question is : what about support of SLIM in the future ?
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xaviermiller
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Ok, is there an alternative to SLIM ?
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xaviermiller
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:22 am Post subject: |
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OK, I'll take a look at LXDM 
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xiber
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: |
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SLiM is great. Don't see a problem using it in a unmaintained state as long as its in portage and there are no security issues.
Used gdm (from 2.6.x to 2.16.x) until the gnome dependencies became to much. Took a look at it again recently. gnome-panel dependency pulls in everything under the sun. Might try building without it.
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aramis_qc
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| xiber wrote: | | SLiM is great. Don't see a problem using it in a unmaintained state as long as its in portage and there are no security issues. |
I agree to that.
That's the kind of answer I've expected to get when I posted.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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| XavierMiller wrote: | | OK, I'll take a look at LXDM |
Yep ! Let's give a try to Lxdm.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Not yet in portage. I will wait and continue to use SLim...
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| XavierMiller wrote: | | Not yet in portage. I will wait and continue to use SLim... |
Is there an overlay ?
Otherwise you may install from SVN. Somehow I haven't found the address yet. Sorry !
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| nightmorph wrote: | ...Yes, it is unmaintained. The developers of SLiM have been saying this for almost a year -- they needed folks to step up and help out with bugfixes and security fixes first of all, new features second. There haven't really been any takers.
SLiM is far lighter than LXDM will ever be, since LXDM requires gtk+ and other packages. |
Too pitty, to hear that. Slim was the only one that respects ~/.xinitrc file from amongst I've encountered (gdm, kdm and entrance does not).
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, I just switched to SLiM from GDM because XDM wouldn't play by the rules and ditch the stupid login browser which has annoyed me ever since 2.26 came along, no matter how I tried. And gdm-setup apparently is nowhere to be found, no matter where I looked. And I don't take kindly to having my wishes ignored. Especially when it's my computer doing the ignoring. 
Incidentally, does anyone know why Gnome developers decided to make login browsing mandatory? Or is it simply the standard emergence theme that I used to have?
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:05 pm Post subject: slim less packages required than lxdm (not true) |
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Useless post. See the comments of the next post.
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I was looking for a simple login manager for lxde and I had to chose between slim and lxdm.
slim requires only
| Code: | [ebuild N ] x11-misc/slim-1.3.2-r1 USE="branding pam -screenshot" 216 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-themes/slim-themes-1.2.3a-r6 9,822 kB |
while lxdm requires
| Code: | [ebuild N ] x11-libs/gtksourceview-2.10.4 USE="-doc -glade -test" 1,204 kB [0]
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Error-0.17.016 USE="-test" 21 kB [0]
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Net-SMTP-SSL-1.01 0 kB [0]
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Digest-SHA1-2.12 39 kB [0]
[ebuild N ] dev-python/pygtksourceview-2.10.1 USE="-debug -doc" 284 kB [0]
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Digest-HMAC-1.01-r1 0 kB [0]
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Authen-SASL-2.12 USE="-kerberos" 0 kB [0]
[ebuild N ] dev-vcs/git-1.7.2.2 USE="blksha1 curl gtk iconv perl threads webdav -bash-completion -cgi -cvs -doc -emacs (-ppcsha1) -subversion -tk -xinetd" 2,786 kB [0]
[ebuild N ] lxde-base/lxdm-9999 0 kB [1] |
So I have chosen slim. I still need to test the combination with lxde.
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ppurka
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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That doesn't mean that lxdm is pulling in all those dependencies. git is being pulled in because you are trying to use lxdm-9999 which is the live git version. And git is pulling in all of the rest because of your USE flags. The correct way to see what package is pulling in what dependency is of course to pass the -t argument to the emerge command. | Code: | /usr/portage/eclass> USE="perl gtk" emerge -pvt git
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] dev-vcs/git-1.7.2.2 USE="bash-completion blksha1 curl gtk* iconv perl* threads webdav -cgi -cvs -doc -emacs (-ppcsha1) -subversion -tk -xinetd" 0 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-python/pygtksourceview-2.10.1 USE="-debug -doc" 284 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/gtksourceview-2.10.4 USE="-doc -glade -test" 1,204 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Authen-SASL-2.12 USE="-kerberos" 50 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Digest-HMAC-1.01-r1 14 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Digest-SHA1-2.12 39 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Net-SMTP-SSL-1.01 2 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/IO-Socket-SSL-1.33 USE="-idn" 66 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Error-0.17.016 USE="-test" 21 kB
[nomerge ] dev-perl/IO-Socket-SSL-1.33 USE="-idn"
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Net-SSLeay-1.36 143 kB
Total: 10 packages (9 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 1,818 kB
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I found slim to be extremely unstable on my system (quite bleeding edge X stuff) for a long time, but I didn't really need a login manager anyway so I unmerged it. |
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| genstorm wrote: | | I found slim to be extremely unstable on my system (quite bleeding edge X stuff) for a long time, but I didn't really need a login manager anyway so I unmerged it. |
Hmm, totally OT, sorry.... but:
IS there even a way to fire up a DE (kde-4.5.1 in my case) without?
I use xdm to do it for years, but autologin anyways, so...?
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Use to love SLiM back in the day...
| Martux wrote: |
Hmm, totally OT, sorry.... but:
IS there even a way to fire up a DE (kde-4.5.1 in my case) without?
I use xdm to do it for years, but autologin anyways, so...? |
You mean without a login manager? Sure, that's how I do it now. Setup .xinitrc with something like "exec /usr/bin/startkde". Login into a (bash) virtual terminal and type something like Done.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Have just now tried out lxdm. It seems quite painless and sort of "just works".
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