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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:06 am    Post subject: /etc/make.conf keeps going blank all the time. Reply with quote

My /etc/make.conf keeps dissappearing for some reason. Current one that was destroyed was my sixth version.
Why does this happen?
No, it wasn't in use at a crash.
filesystem=xfs
EDIT: Actually it is there but it goes blank.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are asking us why a file on your disk is delete ?

So except trying to chmod 0600 your make.conf, we can't find the answer for you.

Because it's not a normal behavior from portage, then it could be anything : ghosts, hackers, friends, familly, you (drunk), you (not drunk but doing stupids things on the file, like setting logrotate to rotate the make.conf...), autoupdate dumb script...

(even i'll won't bet my hand on it, i'm still pretty confident you could remove ghosts from the list)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

krinn wrote:
...not drunk but doing stupids things on the file, like setting logrotate to rotate the make.conf...

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I do agree with krinn. I could even add that even you, crazy weirdo, following some krinn's howto would not lead to this situation.

1/ What do you mean by "it changes to 'empty document'" ?
No file can get that kind of status. Would it be some interpretation made by some editor ? Which one ?
2/ Is the /etc/make.conf file deleted or emptied ?

When this reoccurs, can you post the output of
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ls -uils | grep make
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aCOSwt: My imagination have no limits when it comes to kill & break things :) https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5650943.html#5650943
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I usually don't touch my gentoo box when drunk... I don't want to wake up in the morning and wonder why all my partitions are written full of 0.
No, it is not deleted, it just blanks.
It appeared to blank on my older systems too.
No chmod experiments on this box.
ONLY access by me has been done by nano.

OFFTOPIC: What is #emerge --depclean supposed to do? (in my case it would eventually remove itself and my box propably)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, what do you mean by blank ?

Its size = 0 ?
Some editor's vue of the file ?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know about size but..blank in my case means this:
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# nano -w /etc/make.conf

shows me
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KrossFIN wrote:
OFFTOPIC: What is #emerge --depclean supposed to do? (in my case it would eventually remove itself and my box propably)

man emerge wrote:
Cleans the system by removing packages that are not associated with explicitly merged packages..."

make.conf is not part of a package associated with any explicitely merged package.
Moreover, packages members of the world set will always be kept => do not fear any recursive destroying action on your system.

From your last info, please :

1/ Do you suspect any other file in /etc having similar troubles ?
2/ Backup your /etc/make.conf in /etc/make.conf.0
3/ Give the ouput of ls -iuls | grep make next time it occurs[/quote]
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
touch tempty
echo > tblank
echo "                                                                              " > tbigblank
ls -l t*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 79 26 sept. 16:48 tbigblank
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1 26 sept. 16:47 tblank
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  0 26 sept. 16:46 tempty


So size & blank is not the same as you see.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I don't see any change in the other files in /etc.
OffTopic: In my case emerge --depclean removed xorg,kde,portage-utils,mesa-progs,dhcpcd and loads of other stuff(and still would).
I'll backup it from now.
I'll post the output of "ls -iuls | grep make" if/when this will reappear.
Now I have to get back writing my make.conf for the seventh time..
Ok, I get it, blank and size ain't same thing.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emerge --depclean -pv

Don't just run depclean like that, use pretend and see what it will do before going with the havock.
And it just remove unused file, if you have plenty hdd space, just don't run it and keep them.

edit: if you have a recent portage version, you can just also
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cp /etc/make.conf /etc/portage/

Not only you've made a double of that make.conf, but portage will overwrite your /etc/make.conf with it
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I hope it won't do it again.
Thank you for your help.
I didn't know that KDE and xorg-server are unused files though..
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a thought, but do you have any free space on the drive? I've had some equally peculiar amnesia problems with a full drive, so worth checking :D
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KrossFIN wrote:
OffTopic: In my case emerge --depclean removed xorg,kde,portage-utils,mesa-progs,dhcpcd and loads of other stuff(and still would).

8O 8O Gee ! There must be something rotten in the kingdom of denmark...
Sorry... Finland... ! Not very far from anyway...

BTW... this situation is going very far from just loosing your make.conf.
I agree with optiluca.
Post the output of df.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blank "world" coming?
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