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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't anything obviously wrong with your logs, apart from the usual errors and warnings from disabling DRI. What happens with "no_dri"="no", and NoDDC on?

Could you also post your current kernel config ( /usr/src/<kernel version>/.config )?

Edit: You could give the older drivers a try I suppose, but these ones should work.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

config file: http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree5/dotconfig
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could try removing radeon framebuffer support, but I doubt that'd make a difference. Other than that it seems fine.

Have you tried adding "pci=noacpi" to your boot options? I've got a GeForce3 in another system that refuses to work without it, so it can help occasionally.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is in my radeon 3 connectors
CRT, DVI and svhs do I understand right that this puts First one to DVI?
I did try put monitor to DVI connector but black, display issamsung syncmaster 957p

from logfile:
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(II) fglrx(0): Primary head:
 Monitor   -- NONE
 Connector -- DVI-I
 DAC Type  -- TVDAC/ExtDAC
 TMDS Type -- Internal
 DDC Type  -- DVI_DDC
(II) fglrx(0): Secondary head:
 Monitor   -- TMDS
 Connector -- VGA
 DAC Type  -- Primary
 TMDS Type -- NONE
 DDC Type  -- VGA_DDC



no acpi did same old black screen...


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did emerge ati-drivers 2.9.12
config
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree5/XF86Config.ati2912
and log
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree5/XFree86.0.log.ati2912


running glxgears :
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bash-2.05b# glxgears
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
1487 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.400 FPS
1400 frames in 5.0 seconds = 280.000 FPS


I think that I start using without 3d...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did also try XF86Config with

UseInternalAGPGART="yes"
"no_dri"="no"

http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree5/XFree86.0.log.UIAGPGno
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the logfile "XFree86.0.log.ati2912" you've posted complete? It seems to get cut off early. Try 2.9.12 with UseInternalAGPGART=no and no_dri=no. Using no_dri=yes isn't really useful in finding out what the problem is, since it disables acceleration, it was just to check if it'd load that way.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no it wasn't complete

here are complete files
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree6/
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been following this thread closely 'cause I'm trying to configure the same card (Radeon 9200 8x AGP).

Just out of curiosity, I assume the Character Device settings for the 2.4.20 kernel should be "AGP Support" (loaded as module) and "VIA Chipset Support", correct? Or, is this an i810?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have vanilla sources 2.4.22 with Asrock k7s8x board (sis chipset), agp is 8x also
<M> /dev/agpgart (AGP Support)
[*] Generic SiS support

My whole kernel .config file:
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree5/dotconfig

nice to hear that I am not onlyone with this problem :wink:
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timop wrote:
nice to hear that I am not onlyone with this problem :wink:


No, you're not. :wink:

I've tried every trick I could find on the forums. Can't seem to get module agpgart to load and drm gets disabled every time. My frame rate averages around 312fps.

In my case I'm running a "Chipset: "ATI RV280 Ya (R9200)" (Chipset = 0x5961)" (according to my XFree log).

If I had known it would be this much of a headache I'd have bought an nvidia. That probably would have only resulted in trading one headache for another.

Let me know if you get anywhere and I'll do the same.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have same card:
(--) fglrx(0): Chipset: "ATI RV280 Ya (R9200)" (Chipset = 0x5961)
I do have agpgart loaded lsmod:
fglrx 161160 0 (unused)
agpgart 14064 0 (unused)


same thing if you get working let me know !
maybe it's not yet radeon time to work :( it would be nice play scorceh3d and run other programs that uses 3d...

maybe I try one more time and compile agpgart in to the kernel.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timop wrote:
no it wasn't complete

here are complete files
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree6/

It still seems to be stopping somewhere in the middle of the DDC section. Try it with the same config file, but with Option "NoDDC" uncommented.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timop wrote:

I do have agpgart loaded lsmod:
fglrx 161160 0 (unused)
agpgart 14064 0 (unused)


You're one step closer than I am.

Somewhere on this forum I remember reading that the agpgart module should be loaded BEFORE the fglrx. Have you tried that?

Wedge_, thanks for sticking with us here... I hope we can get around this. I'd hate to think I spent $99USD and can't get accel.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wedge_ wrote:
timop wrote:
no it wasn't complete

here are complete files
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree6/

It still seems to be stopping somewhere in the middle of the DDC section. Try it with the same config file, but with Option "NoDDC" uncommented.


now it's with NoDDC uncommented:
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree6/XF86Config_2
log
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree6/XFree86.0.log_2


feardapenguin, yes agpgart is loaded before fglxr in /etc/modules.autoload
and Wedge_ you really are patient to help n00b's like me, Big thanks for that.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those logs are really strange, I've never seen it fail at that point before. Try setting "IgnoreEDID" to "on". Does anything happen if you leave it at the black screen for 5 minutes? Have you got a non-standard monitor setup that you could try changing? Another thing you could do is try a 2.6 kernel, and see if that makes a difference (emerge development-sources or mm-sources).
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waiting about 5mins added "IgnoreEDID" "on"
one line more :

http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree6/XFree86.0.log_4

my monitor
Horizontal Frequency 30 ~ 96 kHz
Vertical Frequency 50 ~ 160 Hz
Max. Resolution 1920x1440 @64Hz
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wedge_ wrote:
Another thing you could do is try a 2.6 kernel, and see if that makes a difference (emerge development-sources or mm-sources).

I don't want try 2.6 kernel yet, I think that more problems comes with that...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your motherboard allows it, try changing the AGP rate to 4x instead of 8x.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L oooottsss of thanks !!!!
you're great Wedge_ !

I did put AGP from automatic to 4x and there it was.
conf and log:
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree6/XF86Config_WORKS
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree6/XFree86.0.log_WORKS

Code:

bash-2.05b$ glxgears
7081 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1416.200 FPS
7951 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1590.200 FPS
7957 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1591.400 FPS
7955 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1591.000 FPS

runs great (or better than till to this point :D ) only black areas have some white noise but that doesn't matter.
Next I might try update ati-drivers, even fact is "If is it works, don't fix it"

Thanks a lot !
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, finally :) Actually, that was why I suggested a 2.6 kernel - I think they may have better support for AGP 8x. If you're going to upgrade to 3.2.5, remember to run fglrxconfig again, it'll add some more options that aren't supported in the 2.9 drivers. Great to hear it's finally working though :D
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

feardapenguin wrote:
I've tried every trick I could find on the forums. Can't seem to get module agpgart to load and drm gets disabled every time. My frame rate averages around 312fps.

What error(s) do you get when you try to load the module? (check the output of dmesg too)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
[15:51:33][~]# modprobe agpgart
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o: init_module: No such device
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
      You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o: insmod agpgart failed

[15:52:36][~]# dmesg
Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 203M
agpgart: Unsupported Via chipset (device id: 3168), you might want to try agp_try_unsupported=1.
agpgart: no supported devices found.

[15:54:03][~]# modprobe agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o: init_module: Invalid argument
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
      You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o: insmod agpgart failed

[15:55:18][~]# dmesg
Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 203M
agpgart: Trying generic Via routines for device id: 3168
agpgart: unable to determine aperture size.


I'm running gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 and agpgart set as a module (with VIA chipset support).
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which motherboard do you have?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my specs. This is a new system (just upgraded from a 600Mhz P3 last weekend).

Shuttle AV49N motherboard
Intel P4 2.4GHz
ATI Radeon 9200 8x/4x AGP (128MB DDR)
gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7
xfree-4.3.0
ati-drivers-3.2.5

Do the 2.4 kernels support 8x AGP?

As far as the dmesg about aperture size, is aperture size set in BIOS? The only BIOS aperture setting I can find for AGP is set at 64MB. Don't know if this is correct or not.
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