radeon 9200

timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland

I found so many radeon topics but didn't found clear answer to my problem.

I have this radeon 9200 128Mb board and ati-driver 3.2.5 in my gentoo.amd Xp2600+, asrock K7S8X motherboard, kernel is vanilla 2.4.22

If I wanna use xfree-drm drivers,
- should I unmerge ati-drivers,
- which opengl-update command I should use (opengl-update ati ...)
- should I use, ChipID 0x514D in XF86Config file?

I did install newest ati-drivers like [HOWTO] ATI Radeon Binary Drivers on Gentoo told, but if I "opengl-update ati" , glxgears runs only ~200 fps and when used "opengl-update xfree" it goes ~1300fps (both with 24bit color depth)

when use opengl-update xfree with glxinfo is direct rendering: Yes and with ati command it's direct rendering: No

my configs and log and other files :

[url]
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree/
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I just wan't to get 3d to work ...

adds:
/proc/dri/0/name shows radeon 0xe200
in make.conf I have USE="radeon ..."
And no efect if I put XF86Config UseInternalAGPGAR "yes" or "no"

Wedge_ · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 10:02 am Post subject:

Right. In all of your logfiles, you seem to be using the radeon DRM driver. If you want to use ati-drivers, you should be using the "fglrx" driver, which is commented out in both your configs. "opengl-update ati" won't work with the radeon driver, which is why glxgears was so slow - there wasn't any acceleration. You're also having problems because the radeon DRM module is being loaded before the fglrx module. If you look at the end of your "dmesg" file:

timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland

aaaaargh

i did like you said, now black screen when X should be up and it doesn't react to nothing.
I did put fglrx to modules.autoload and even it goes ok at boot.

part of XF86Config-4

Wedge_ · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:13 pm Post subject:

When it goes to the black screen, can you get back to a console with CTRL-ALT-F1 etc? If not, try setting UseInternalAGPGART to "no" (you'll need the kernel AGP module(s) loaded for this to work).
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timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland

no I can't get to console with ctrl+alt+Fanykey
I did set UseInternalAGPGART to "no", no help still black screen.
I have boot option with gentoo sources, and I did edit XF86Config-4 from that way.
should agp module (agpgart) load by adding it to modules.autoload ?

Wedge_ · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:35 pm Post subject:

You should have the agpgart module loaded before you try to start X with UseInternalAGPGART set to "no". Can you post your latest dmesg output and logfile?
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timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland

well I only can boot with this kernel by putting radeon driver to XF86Config so I am not sure is it latesta logs and dmesg

http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree2/

I did also try this:
-boot with 2.4.22 kernel ati driver in XF86Config file
-rmmod agpgart
-adding agpgart and fglrx to modules.autoload (agpgart firstplace)
and both are ok at boot.
booted again to 2.4.22 and black screen ...

Wedge_ · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:51 pm Post subject:

X copies the existing logfile to /var/log/XFree86.0.log.old when you start it, so if you run it with the fglrx driver, followed by the radeon driver, then /var/log/XFree86.0.log will contain the log messages from the radeon driver, while /var/log/XFree86.0.log.old will contain the log messages from the fglrx driver, so that's the one you should post.

Have you got X set to run automatically on bootup? If you have, do "rc-update del xdm default" to stop it doing this until this is fixed. It makes it easier to troubleshoot.
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timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland

ok, I did rc-update del xdm default
startx starts ok, kdm starts ok but no direct rendering

I did put newest files to same overwriting olds in address :

http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree2/

Wedge_ · Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:27 am Post subject:

Both the logs you posted are using the radeon driver, not fglrx

Try this:
- Edit XF86Config-4, and set the driver to "fglrx".

timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland

here it is:
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree3/XFree86.0.log.startx

I didn't set driver radeon and started kdm and it works only without direct rendering and ~200fps glxgears.
I don't understand why it works this way, but no with xdm/kdm in "automatic mode"

should start from beginning, unmerging all and merging all again ?

what fbconfig means ?
bash-2.05b$ fgl_glxgears
Error: couldn't get fbconfig

Wedge_ · Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:19 pm Post subject:

timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland

I did remove hole line
# Driver "radeon" from XF86Config-4 file and even that it uses radeon !!
no fglrx lines in log file...
I did ran opengl-update ati after editing file.
should I remove xfont server at boot?

files again :
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree3/

I did search other XF86Config-4 files but bad success, could there be any "hidden" settings which forces it to radeon ?

I have now in my gentoo:
xfree-4.3.0-r2
ati-drivers-3.2.5 (should I downgrade ?)
opengl-update-1.5

Wedge_ · Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:14 pm Post subject:

In your logfile, near the start, there should always be a line which tells you the name of the config file X is using. In the log you posted, it's using "/root/XF86Config". The fglrxconfig program uses "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" by default, so you've maybe edited the wrong file. To check which file X is currently using, do

timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland

ups !
yes there is XF86Config file in /root directory, I did put older versions safe there.
but how X uses that file?? shouldn't it use always from /etc/X11/ ?
but I will move XF* files from root directory to somewhere else.

I've been so blind... :oops:

I will test today evening.

Wedge_ · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:03 am Post subject:

X will search several directories for config files, and just uses the first one it finds. I don't know exactly which directories it searches, but /root is obviously one of them. You can always work out which one it used by looking at the log like I said. If you make a directory called config_backups somewhere and put all the older configs in there, it should keep them out of the way.
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timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland

ok, now it uses right XF86Config file, But no log file generated when screen goes black !!!

but when I changed color from 24 to 16 bit this log file did appear
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree4/XFree86.0.log

and my config
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree4/XF86Config
and dmesg
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree4/dmesg

I did opengl-update ati before startx command.

Wedge_ · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:47 pm Post subject:

The driver currrently will not work in 16 bit mode at all. Try changing this section of your config

timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland

this is just what I did only opposite way.
1. moved XF86Configs from /root to otherplace
2. checked /etc/X11/XF86Config that it's ok
3. opengl-update ati
4. startx --> black screen no response from any key, only power button --> boot
5. after boot no log file /var/log/XF....log or old (i did remove older log files)
6. edited to 16 bit colors no start -> generates that logfile

Wedge_ · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:55 pm Post subject:

What happens if you set "UseInternalAGPGART" back to "yes"?
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timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland

same "flashed" to my mind and I allready tested it
and here is log file
http://pumo.homelinux.org/files/omat_testit/xfree4/XFree86.0.log

timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland

I did mean no it doesn't work, black screen and halt only log file generated.

could this be causing black screen?

Wedge_ · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 8:47 pm Post subject:

So this is what happens:
- UseInternalAGPGART="no" -> black screen + no log at all
- UseInternalAGPGART="yes" -> black screen + a weird logfile
Right?

I don't know why the log stops where it does, or why the AGP setting would even make a difference. It doesn't even start to set up AGP until later, so it shouldn't have any effect :?:

Try setting "no_dri" to "yes", just to see if it'll start that way (you won't get any 3D accel). Also try uncommenting the line #Option "NoDDC" in the config file, it seems to be the DDC section that the log stops at.
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Wedge_ · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 8:51 pm Post subject:

timop · n00b Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Finland