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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:07 pm    Post subject: Refresh rate, nvidia and Xorg! [SOLVED] Reply with quote

I need help setting my monitor to 120HZ for 640*480, i have no idea how to do this using xorg.conf or nvidia-settings... nvidia-settings only shows as high as 85hz for this resolution.

I'm using a ViewSonic E70 17" CRT monitor and a Geforce4 mx420 with the nvidia-96 proprietary driver from portage.

I really need 640*480 to get to 120 hz, should be simple enough!

Need more info ? Just ask

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What makes you think this monitor can take 120 Hz? Normally, Xorg driver reads EDID out of monitor and offers you possible configurations. See Xorg log.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaglover wrote:
What makes you think this monitor can take 120 Hz? Normally, Xorg driver reads EDID out of monitor and offers you possible configurations. See Xorg log.


I know it can, always had it set at 120 at 640*480 in other os's(winxp) so that's not up for debate.

Code:
[  3701.554] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[  3701.554] (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
[  3701.554] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0
[  3701.554] (WW) Disabling Mouse0
[  3701.554] (II) Loader magic: 0x81f1f80
[  3701.554] (II) Module ABI versions:
[  3701.554]    X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[  3701.554]    X.Org Video Driver: 8.0
[  3701.554]    X.Org XInput driver : 11.0
[  3701.554]    X.Org Server Extension : 4.0
[  3701.555] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:0172:10de:015a rev 163, Mem @ 0xfc000000/16777216, 0xf4000000/67108864, 0xf3f80000/524288, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
[  3701.555] (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
[  3701.555] (II) LoadModule: "extmod"
[  3701.555] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
[  3701.555] (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  3701.555]    compiled for 1.9.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  3701.555]    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[  3701.555]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
[  3701.556] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[  3701.556] (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[  3701.556] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
[  3701.556] (II) Loading extension DPMS
[  3701.556] (II) Loading extension XVideo
[  3701.556] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[  3701.556] (II) Loading extension X-Resource
[  3701.556] (II) LoadModule: "dbe"
[  3701.556] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
[  3701.556] (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  3701.556]    compiled for 1.9.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  3701.556]    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[  3701.556]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
[  3701.556] (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[  3701.556] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[  3701.556] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[  3701.583] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[  3701.583]    compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  3701.583]    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[  3701.583] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  96.43.19  Wed Oct 27 19:20:11 PDT 2010
[  3701.583] (II) Loading extension GLX
[  3701.583] (II) LoadModule: "record"
[  3701.583] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
[  3701.584] (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  3701.584]    compiled for 1.9.2, module version = 1.13.0
[  3701.584]    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[  3701.584]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
[  3701.584] (II) Loading extension RECORD
[  3701.584] (II) LoadModule: "dri"
[  3701.584] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
[  3701.584] (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  3701.584]    compiled for 1.9.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  3701.584]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
[  3701.584] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
[  3701.584] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
[  3701.585] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
[  3701.585] (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  3701.585]    compiled for 1.9.2, module version = 1.2.0
[  3701.585]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
[  3701.585] (II) Loading extension DRI2
[  3701.585] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
[  3701.585] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[  3701.586] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[  3701.586]    compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  3701.586]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[  3701.586] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  96.43.19  Wed Oct 27 19:07:40 PDT 2010
[  3701.586] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
[  3701.586] (--) using VT number 7

[  3701.588] (II) Loading sub module "fb"
[  3701.588] (II) LoadModule: "fb"
[  3701.589] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so
[  3701.589] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  3701.589]    compiled for 1.9.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  3701.589]    ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
[  3701.589] (II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
[  3701.589] (II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
[  3701.589] (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
[  3701.590] (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
[  3701.590] (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
[  3701.590] (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
[  3701.590] (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
[  3701.590] (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "MetaModes" "640x480_120 +0+0; 640x480_85 +0+0; nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
[  3701.590] (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
[  3701.590] (II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is
[  3701.590] (II) NVIDIA(0):     enabled.
[  3701.994] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce4 MX 420 at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
[  3701.994] (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 65536 kBytes
[  3701.994] (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 04.17.00.45.af
[  3701.994] (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected AGP rate: 4X
[  3701.994] (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU
[  3701.994] (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce4 MX 420 at PCI:1:0:0:
[  3701.994] (--) NVIDIA(0):     ViewSonic E70-9 (CRT-0)
[  3701.994] (--) NVIDIA(0): ViewSonic E70-9 (CRT-0): 350.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[  3701.995] (II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: CRT-0
[  3701.995] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1024 x 768
[  3701.995] (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (50, 50); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config
[  3701.995] (--) NVIDIA(0):     option
[  3701.995] (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
[  3701.997] (II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GART.
[  3702.047] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "640x480_85+0+0"
[  3702.130] (II) Loading extension NV-GLX
[  3702.140] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
[  3702.148] (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
[  3702.148] (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
[  3702.148] (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
[  3702.148] (**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
[  3702.148] (II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL
[  3702.148] (==) RandR enabled
[  3702.148] (II) Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[  3702.149] (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[  3702.154] (II) Initializing extension GLX
[  3702.382] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Power Button (/dev/input/event3)
[  3702.382] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[  3702.382] (II) LoadModule: "evdev"
[  3702.382] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
[  3702.382] (II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  3702.382]    compiled for 1.9.0, module version = 2.5.0
[  3702.382]    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[  3702.382]    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 11.0
[  3702.382] (**) Power Button: always reports core events
[  3702.382] (**) Power Button: Device: "/dev/input/event3"
[  3702.382] (--) Power Button: Found keys
[  3702.382] (II) Power Button: Configuring as keyboard
[  3702.383] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" (type: KEYBOARD)
[  3702.383] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[  3702.383] (**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
[  3702.383] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[  3702.438] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Power Button (/dev/input/event2)
[  3702.438] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[  3702.438] (**) Power Button: always reports core events
[  3702.438] (**) Power Button: Device: "/dev/input/event2"
[  3702.438] (--) Power Button: Found keys
[  3702.438] (II) Power Button: Configuring as keyboard
[  3702.438] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" (type: KEYBOARD)
[  3702.438] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[  3702.438] (**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
[  3702.438] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[  3702.441] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse (/dev/input/event4)
[  3702.441] (**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall"
[  3702.442] (**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: always reports core events
[  3702.442] (**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event4"
[  3702.442] (--) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Found 12 mouse buttons
[  3702.442] (--) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Found scroll wheel(s)
[  3702.442] (--) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Found relative axes
[  3702.442] (--) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
[  3702.442] (II) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Configuring as mouse
[  3702.442] (**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
[  3702.442] (**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
[  3702.442] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
[  3702.442] (**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[  3702.442] (**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0
[  3702.442] (**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[  3702.442] (**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[  3702.442] (II) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: initialized for relative axes.
[  3702.443] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse (/dev/input/mouse0)
[  3702.443] (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring)
[  3702.451] (II) config/udev: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard (/dev/input/event0)
[  3702.451] (**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[  3702.451] (**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events
[  3702.451] (**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event0"
[  3702.451] (--) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Found keys
[  3702.452] (II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
[  3702.452] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
[  3702.452] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[  3702.452] (**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
[  3702.452] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[  3702.453] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PC Speaker (/dev/input/event1)
[  3702.453] (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring)
[  3730.117] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1024x768_60"


So what am I suppose to be looking for here ?

I'm completely lost when it comes to Xorg and everything display related in linux, it's hard work!

Edit: It's absolutely vital that I get this working properly, I really don't wanna have to dual boot! This has to be possible.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manufacturer says:
Quote:

Model Number: E70
CRT Type 17.0 inch 90° deflection
Viewable Size 16.0 inch
Max Resolution 1280x1024
Pitch 0.27mm Diagonal, 0.23mm Horizontal, 0.13mm Vertical
Glass Surface Anti-static, Anti-glare, Anti-Reflection
Input Signal Video RGB analog (0.7/1.0Vp-p, 75 ohms)
Frequency Fh: 30-70KHz; Fv: 50-160Hz
Sync H/V separated (TTL)
Video Bandwidth 120MHz (Pixel Clock)
Compatibility PC PC compatible from VGA up to 1280x1024
Mac Power Mac (*may requires Macl adapter)
Connector Analog 15-pin mini D-Sub
Power 3-pin plug (IEC320)
Power Voltage AC 90-264V (auto switch) 50/60 (±3) Hz
Consumption 75W (typ)
Controls Basic Power, KEY-1, down, up, KEY-2
OSD Contrast, Brightness, Degauss, H. Size, H. Position, V. Size, V. Position, Pincusion, Pinbalance, Trapezoid, Parellelogram, Tilt, Moire Reduction, ViewMatch (9300K, 6500K, 5000K, User Color), Language, ViewMeter, Zoom and Memory Recall
Operating Conditions Temperature
Humidity 0°C - 40°C (32°F - 104°F)
5% - 95% (non-condensation)
Misconvergence Center 0.25mm
Corner 0.35mm
Display Area Factory Setting 310.0mm (H) x 230.0mm (V)
Full Scan 325.0mm (H) x 243.0mm (V) (dependent upon timing used)
Dimensions Physical 410mm (W) x 402mm (H) x 425mm (D)
Weight Net 15.0 kgs
Regulations UL/cUL, DHHS. FCC-B. ICES-003, CB. MPRII, GS, Ergo, TUV-S/IRAM/UL-AR S Mark, NOM
Power Management Meet MPRII standard

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DONAHUE wrote:
Manufacturer says:
Quote:

Model Number: E70
CRT Type 17.0 inch 90° deflection
Viewable Size 16.0 inch
Max Resolution 1280x1024
Pitch 0.27mm Diagonal, 0.23mm Horizontal, 0.13mm Vertical
Glass Surface Anti-static, Anti-glare, Anti-Reflection
Input Signal Video RGB analog (0.7/1.0Vp-p, 75 ohms)
Frequency Fh: 30-70KHz; Fv: 50-160Hz
Sync H/V separated (TTL)
Video Bandwidth 120MHz (Pixel Clock)
Compatibility PC PC compatible from VGA up to 1280x1024
Mac Power Mac (*may requires Macl adapter)
Connector Analog 15-pin mini D-Sub
Power 3-pin plug (IEC320)
Power Voltage AC 90-264V (auto switch) 50/60 (±3) Hz
Consumption 75W (typ)
Controls Basic Power, KEY-1, down, up, KEY-2
OSD Contrast, Brightness, Degauss, H. Size, H. Position, V. Size, V. Position, Pincusion, Pinbalance, Trapezoid, Parellelogram, Tilt, Moire Reduction, ViewMatch (9300K, 6500K, 5000K, User Color), Language, ViewMeter, Zoom and Memory Recall
Operating Conditions Temperature
Humidity 0°C - 40°C (32°F - 104°F)
5% - 95% (non-condensation)
Misconvergence Center 0.25mm
Corner 0.35mm
Display Area Factory Setting 310.0mm (H) x 230.0mm (V)
Full Scan 325.0mm (H) x 243.0mm (V) (dependent upon timing used)
Dimensions Physical 410mm (W) x 402mm (H) x 425mm (D)
Weight Net 15.0 kgs
Regulations UL/cUL, DHHS. FCC-B. ICES-003, CB. MPRII, GS, Ergo, TUV-S/IRAM/UL-AR S Mark, NOM
Power Management Meet MPRII standard


Allright... So it can reach 160hz in certain resolutions ? Well lets get cookin then, but unfortunately I don't have the recipe.

All help is welcome! Thank you!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
emerge read-edid
get-edid | parse-edid
will produce some info

http://www.arachnoid.com/modelines/ is one of several calculators which google can find

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

set it with nvidia-settings
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anon-E-moose wrote:
set it with nvidia-settings


It only displays up to 85hz max for any resolution.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I am going to have to try again later! Tournament upcoming and can't play if I dont have my hz properly set :>

I'll be back to try another day when there is time, but for now windows.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Original post said
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... nvidia-settings only shows as high as 85hz for this resolution.
How do you get around that to set 120hz using nvidia-settings? I'm thinking a custom mode line is the only possibility.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "Unknown"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 110.0
    VertRefresh     50.0 - 150.0
    Option         "DPMS"
    Option "UseEDID" "False"
    Modeline "640x480_120.00"  52.41  640 680 744 848  480 481 484 515  -HSync +Vsync
EndSection


SOLVED! finally using:
Code:

[xxxr@xxx ~]$ gtf 640 480 120


DONAHUE: I think you gave me some well outdated info :) Well this is solved now and was very simple to solve once i figured it out.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great work finding gtf. Does the 120hz vertical refresh mode now show in nvidia-settings? Just curious.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DONAHUE wrote:
Great work finding gtf. Does the 120hz vertical refresh mode now show in nvidia-settings? Just curious.


Sorry for late reply, but yes it does indeed!

Considering writing a how-to for this, I surely did not find one :)
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