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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:47 pm    Post subject: Entering a grafical interface from grub> Reply with quote

Hi,

After installation of Gentoo which is described in Gentoo handbook. I can boot the PC without the CD. When it boots i can see "grub>". But how can i get a grafic interface? I dont know how i should use the "grub>". Is it possible to get a grafical intercase like Ubuntu in Gentoo Linux?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you see the GRUB promt, you haven't even started booting. GRUB is the boot loader, and when it stops at the promt, something's seriously wrong.

You should go back to the point in the Gentoo handbook where the GRUB configuration and installation is explained and fix your GRUB, then try again booting your system.

To answer your other question: When you really got as far as booting your Gentoo system, you will of course be able to have a graphical environment.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lxg wrote:
When you see the GRUB promt, you haven't even started booting. GRUB is the boot loader, and when it stops at the promt, something's seriously wrong.

You should go back to the point in the Gentoo handbook where the GRUB configuration and installation is explained and fix your GRUB, then try again booting your system.

To answer your other question: When you really got as far as booting your Gentoo system, you will of course be able to have a graphical environment.


Thanks! I will check the configuration again. So you mean when i can boot without the CD the PC starts in a grafical environmen. Is that right?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. When you boot the system without the CD, you're actually booting your Gentoo system.

You can install a graphical environment, but first you should get it booting at all.

When you see something like this: http://www.google.de/images?q=gentoo%20booting, you can start thinking about the installation of a graphical user interface.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lxg wrote:
No. When you boot the system without the CD, you're actually booting your Gentoo system.

You can install a graphical environment, but first you should get it booting at all.

When you see something like this: http://www.google.de/images?q=gentoo%20booting, you can start thinking about the installation of a graphical user interface.


I can not understand you! In the Gentoo handbook at the part "10.d. Rebooting the System" you run the following commands.

# exit
cdimage ~# cd
cdimage ~# umount /mnt/gentoo/boot /mnt/gentoo/dev /mnt/gentoo/proc /mnt/gentoo
cdimage ~# reboot

After that when i rebooted both with the CD and without the CD i saw only "grub>" prompt. How should it work after the above configuration? There are different pictures on the links you sent to me. I am so sorry for beeing så confused!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either you did not create a /boot/grub/grub.conf file (section 10.d of the handbook) or grub can't find it.
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After that when i rebooted both with the CD and without the CD i saw only "grub>" prompt.
Losing the ability to boot the cd suggests you need to enter BIOS and set the cd as the primary boot device.
boot a System Rescue CD (choosing 32 0r 64 bit to match your gentoo install) to the xfce4 GUI, then enter the chroot, nominally: (substitute your values for sda3 and sda1 if different):
Code:
mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot
mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc
mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
env-update
source /etc/profile
export PS1="(chroot) $PS1"
emerge wgetpaste
wgetpaste /boot/grub/grub.conf
ls -l /boot | wgetpaste
fdisk -l | wgetpaste
df -h | wgetpaste
POST the urls returned
Code:
grub
find /boot/grub/stage1
quit
Post the result
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DONAHUE wrote:
Either you did not create a /boot/grub/grub.conf file (section 10.d of the handbook) or grub can't find it.
Quote:
After that when i rebooted both with the CD and without the CD i saw only "grub>" prompt.
Losing the ability to boot the cd suggests you need to enter BIOS and set the cd as the primary boot device.
boot a System Rescue CD (choosing 32 0r 64 bit to match your gentoo install) to the xfce4 GUI, then enter the chroot, nominally: (substitute your values for sda3 and sda1 if different):
Code:
mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot
mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc
mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
env-update
source /etc/profile
export PS1="(chroot) $PS1"
emerge wgetpaste
wgetpaste /boot/grub/grub.conf
ls -l /boot | wgetpaste
fdisk -l | wgetpaste
df -h | wgetpaste
POST the urls returned
Code:
grub
find /boot/grub/stage1
quit
Post the result


Great! Thanks! I try it and get back! :)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rosetta wrote:
DONAHUE wrote:
Either you did not create a /boot/grub/grub.conf file (section 10.d of the handbook) or grub can't find it.
Quote:
After that when i rebooted both with the CD and without the CD i saw only "grub>" prompt.
Losing the ability to boot the cd suggests you need to enter BIOS and set the cd as the primary boot device.
boot a System Rescue CD (choosing 32 0r 64 bit to match your gentoo install) to the xfce4 GUI, then enter the chroot, nominally: (substitute your values for sda3 and sda1 if different):
Code:
mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot
mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc
mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
env-update
source /etc/profile
export PS1="(chroot) $PS1"
emerge wgetpaste
wgetpaste /boot/grub/grub.conf
ls -l /boot | wgetpaste
fdisk -l | wgetpaste
df -h | wgetpaste
POST the urls returned
Code:
grub
find /boot/grub/stage1
quit
Post the result


Great! Thanks! I try it and get back! :)


The setting in the Bios has been Boot from CD. The installation CD for Gentoo that i have used is "install-amd64-minimal-20110217.iso".
I can not find a System Rescue CD which match to it.
I wonder why i get the "grub>" prompt when i reboot the computer. What is wrong? I have followed the Gentto handboot step by step. I am curious about how it shuold look like after rebooting (after the part 10.d. Rebooting the System in the handbook).

Is the program "install-amd64-minimal-20110217.iso" the only one i can use for gentoo installation?

Help me please. I am sooooo confused!

Regards!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rosetta wrote:

I have followed the Gentto handboot step by step.


That right there may well be your problem.

Gentoo isn't Ubuntu. You don't "just follow the steps", you have to understand what you are doing.
Make sure you read AND understand everything the handbook says. Some steps are optional, some are "do A or B. but not both".
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use this link then System rescue cd It should just start the download right up. Ignore the page that appears.
Sysresccd is gentoo based, 2.0.1 is the current version, it boots to a GUI. At boot , a menu appears that allows you to choose a 32 bit or 643b bit version. BTW, you can install Gentoo from any linux that runs on your computer as long as the bitness matches that of the intended install.

Getting the grub prompt everytime means the cd is not in the drive, the cd is defective, the cd drive is broken, the cd drive is not selected as primary boot drive in bios, bios is locked by TPM, or bios has failed. You should check each possibility.

Please report the manufaturer, make, and model of your computer and what drives optical and mechanical are installed including usb, firewire, etc ..

when next seeing grub>
type
Code:
find /boot/grub/stage1
find /etc/fstab

post the results here
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