KDE3 fan thread: There are advantages.

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:45 am Post subject:

It's a problem when KDE-3 starts crashing, which is something it does a lot of under xorg-server-1.8 or greater. I experienced locks both hard and soft, and complete desktop death to the CLI. Xorg-server-1.9.x was just WAY too skittish with KDE-3.

As I have said before, I use this machine for making seeds, and other important work. For that reason, this machine has to be rock solid and very stable. Mixing KDE-3, which needs the hal USE flag, with xorg-server versions that don't is a recipe for everything I don't want happening with this system. I have done the research on this issue, of that you can be sure.

Cheers,
Pappy
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Yamakuzure · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:12 pm Post subject:

jesnow · l33t Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 857

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pappy_mcfae · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject:

"But as HAL is dead as well as qt3, I do not think it will be easy (in a few years!) to maintain a whatever current system with KDE 3 on it. "

Which shows what you don't know. It's ALREADY hard to keep KDE-3 maintained. However, because the world DOESN'T revolve around KDE-4, it is well worth the effort.

A long time ago, I read something in one of the Gentoo Documents that told me that I could make Gentoo into whatever kind of distribution *I* wanted. That's what I did. Since I own my computers, and YOU don't, why on Earth should I care about your opinion of KDE-3, or the price of tea in China?

I'm glad you like KDE-4. I do not, and I will not. Since all you seem to want to do is troll about this topic, barring you saying something incredibly stupid, this is the last time I respond to you. If you want to debate stupidity, I suggest you go to Facebook, or the Off The Wall section of the forum. If you love KDE-4, open your own thread filled with overflowing praise, and leave us users of the obsolete in peace, M'kay?

Cheers...barely,
Pappy
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pappy_mcfae · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject:

I would also request that a moderator monitor this thread, and if Yamakuzure can't play nicely with folks in this thread, that he be kept from it. Thanks

Cheers,
Pappy
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jesnow · l33t Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 857

I'm still using KDE 3. Is it perversity? I just got a Core i7 1.8 Mac at work, and it feels really slow compared to KDE3. I just *hate* waiting around for animations to play when I'm opening and closing things.

Yamakuzure · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:26 am Post subject:

Earthwings · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:26 pm Post subject:

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:29 am Post subject:

This is old news. It also doesn't much matter, as annoyances and new packages that bring new and exciting breakage have forced me to give up KDE-3.5. So now, if the topic is to be changed to praising KDE-4, as some posts would lead others to believe, then I'll no longer stop that. I really don't care anymore. What's in a topic's name anyway?

Cheers,
Pappy
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gerard27 · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject:

@pappy,
I got sick of kde4 so I looked for a way to return to kde3.5.
Tried to install but ran into big problems.
Then I stumbled upon razorqt.
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-912722-highlight-.html
Maybe a solution for you.
Regards,
Gerard.
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pappy_mcfae · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:59 pm Post subject:

I made a backup of the machine with kde-3.5 if I ever decide to go back, or if I want to expand outward when Trinity FINALLY makes it to portage in some form or fashion. I'm cool as far as that goes.

Cheers,
Pappy
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asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 8938

Trinity will never make it into portage as long as it depends on Qt3. And the move to Qt4, at first planned, was dropped again from the Trinity agenda, making it dependent on five years old uncared-for code.

Etal · Veteran Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 1931

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:47 pm Post subject:

If the moderator thinks off-topic posting is okay, then I guess that not only myself, but the original poster of this thread should be ashamed for trying to steer the conversation back to the TOPIC of the thread, which, for those who can't remember is: KDE3 fan thread: There are advantages.

If you behave like a troll by continuously changing the topic, then you are a troll. I have no better way to put it. If you don't like people thinking you're a troll, perhaps you ought to not behave as one.

Finally, not that I owe you an explanation, but...

I am Pappy McFae. I am the proprietor of Pappy's Kernel Seeds. That is a site I designed, setup, and maintain on a daily basis. I am known to pretty much everyone here on the Gentoo forums for that site. The Kernel Seeds site is mentioned in installation documentation on Funtoo. I am covered in the book, Linux Sea. My seeds are used not only by Gentoo users, but also Debian, Slackware, Ubuntu, Arch, and numerous other distros, up to and including Ubuntu and it's derivatives. I am known in every corner of the globe, and my site is regularly visited from the same. The site averages many thousand hits per month. I have personally setup the .config files for over two hundred and fifty users; many are regular repeat users who trust me to set up their kernels properly.

I am listed as a watchman at this site, which means I have posted over five thousand messages. Most of those posts were about the kernel, or using my seeds, or some other form of assistance to untold users. I have proved myself to many here whose opinion matters a lot more than yours, a l33t that seems to do more trolling than just about anything else.

I have three full threads that are now closed that were discussions about kernel seeds, kernel settings, and other kernel-related issues. I am the go-to guy when someone in the community notices something about the kernel, from setting issues, to symbols that are troublesome for one reason or another. The fourth thread maintains a decent discussion of recent kernel changes, as well as heads-ups from other users or myself concerning those changes.

That's who I am.

Who the hell are you? Some troll who can't find another thread in which to post your off-topic KDE-4 noise. That's who you are.

So I'll waste no more words on you. I'll even stop following this thread, since I can no longer post on-topic. Those who wish to gain my insights into keeping KDE-3.5 going in the face of the continuous updates coming through portage may still get in touch with me through the private message system here. But, since I have somehow become persona non grata for trying to keep this thread on topic, I will no longer post in this thread.

There you go, Yamakuzure! It's all yours, now! Post as off-topic and trollishly as you wish. You are not worth my time, or the trouble you seem to love to cause.

Cheers,
Pappy
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Earthwings · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:04 pm Post subject:

Thread gone bad, let's close it.
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