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sleepingsun
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 Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 4:28 pm Post subject: Externel HDD problem [SOLVED] |
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UPGRADED to KDE-META 4.6.2 stable
Also upgrade and recompile new kernel
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linux-2.6.37-gentoo-r4 |
I just made same like in old kernel and old settings ...
| Code: | <*> NTFS file system support
[ ] NTFS debugging support
[*] NTFS write support |
Follow instruction from http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/NTFS-3G
Also done this way
| Code: | File systems --->
<M> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) support |
In old kernel i have this now is missing !
| Quote: | File systems --->
<M> Filesystem in Userspace support |
I done like before
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ln -s /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g /sbin/mount.ntfs |
| Quote: | | echo 'ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}=="ntfs", ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}="ntfs-3g"' > /etc/udev/rules.d/99-ntfs3g.rules |
And doesnt work ...
error message is:
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An error occured while accessing 'local disk', the system responded:org.freedesktop.udisks.error.faild. requested filesystem type is neither well-known nor in /proc/filesystems nor in /etc/filesystems |
when i do it | Code: | | emerge --unmerge ntfs3g |
hard drive was moutable but cant writeble i cant from another disk to copy on tham .
Please help
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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sleepingsun,
For read/write support on ntfs filesystems you need File Systems in Userspace support (FUSE) in your kernel and ntfs-3g
The kernel write support for ntfs is limited to modifying existing files provided the size does not change.
You may have both ntfs-3g and kernel ntfs installed as they go by different names for mount.
Kernel ntfs is simply ntfs
ntfs-3g is ntfs3g
Fix your kernel, in make menuconfig, press / and enter fuse to find out where it is.
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sleepingsun
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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You mean to install this ?
| Code: | File systems --->
<M> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) support
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Now i have installed
| Quote: | <*> NTFS file system support
[ ] NTFS debugging support
[*] NTFS write support |
And sys-fs/udisks
I get problem when is ntfs3g installed !
I remove ntfs3g becouse in that case i cant access my externel hard drive .
Please give me some guide becouse i have installed Fuse as I posted.
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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sleepingsun,
FUSE is needed by ntfs3g. For write support on ntfs you must use ntfs3g, so we need to make that work.
<*> NTFS file system support is not required in the kernel.
What error message do you get when you try to use ntfs3g?
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sleepingsun
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Error what i get !
In that case i see hdd but cant mount tham !
An error occured while accessing 'local disk', the system responded:org.freedesktop.udisks.error.faild. requested filesystem type is neither well-known nor in /proc/filesystems nor in /etc/filesystems
I think that this new tool udisks are making problem !
I also dont have hal install becouse i read that hal not need any more and all things works fine i have 2 another internal hdd ext3 and works well and fine only externel hdd are problems .
If you need .config to post it
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i also try without simple ntfs in kernel and same things  same error i just try to unmerge all and try without udisks and back here
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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sleepingsun,
What command do you use for mount?
What is in /proc/filesystems?
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sleepingsun
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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I mount tham from kde
/proc/filesystems
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nodev sysfs
nodev rootfs
nodev bdev
nodev proc
nodev cgroup
nodev cpuset
nodev tmpfs
nodev binfmt_misc
nodev debugfs
nodev sockfs
nodev usbfs
nodev pipefs
nodev anon_inodefs
nodev rpc_pipefs
nodev configfs
nodev devpts
reiserfs
ext3
ext2
ext4
squashfs
nodev ramfs
nodev hugetlbfs
vfat
msdos
iso9660
nodev nfs
nodev nfs4
hpfs
ntfs
udf
jfs
xfs
ocfs2
nodev ocfs2_dlmfs
gfs2
gfs2meta
nodev mqueue
nodev selinuxfs
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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sleepingsun,
ntfs is there, which is a bit odd if its been removed for your kernel
ntfs3g is not, which is ok as its a user space file system.
Try mounting manually in a terminal window with the full command
| Code: | | mount -t ntfs3g /dev/... /mnt/someplace |
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sleepingsun
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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HDD is mounting but problem is that i can copy on tham ... its strange i see files and cant copy tham on another partition but i cant use cut and cant paste on externel hdd
Its look like that only works when is fuse compile like [M]
and only installed udisks without ntfs3g in that case disk is moutable and file is here and cant see files and copy tham from disk to another internel disk but cant copy on tham !
When is placed ntfs3g disk is not mountable like was with hal and old system with 4.4 kde and older kernel.
its some tips and trick to make it readble also i found that disk is moutable when is also set like i post it in kernel ntfs support.
Now i just need to figure how to copy on this disk and need help
Just udisk --dump
| Code: | ========================================================================
Showing information for /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sde1
native-path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-5/2-5:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0/block/sde/sde1
device: 8:65
device-file: /dev/sde1
presentation: /dev/sde1
by-id: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Apacer_Technology_Inc._090901000E-0:0-part1
by-id: /dev/disk/by-uuid/FABC2F49BC2EFFAD
by-path: /dev/disk/by-path/pci-0000:00:1d.7-usb-0:5:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1
detected at: Sun May 15 03:34:38 2011
system internal: 0
removable: 0
has media: 1 (detected at Sun May 15 03:34:38 2011)
detects change: 0
detection by polling: 0
detection inhibitable: 0
detection inhibited: 0
is read only: 0
is mounted: 1
mount paths: /media/Local Disk
mounted by uid: 0
presentation hide: 0
presentation nopolicy: 0
presentation name:
presentation icon:
size: 500105217024
block size: 512
job underway: no
usage: filesystem
type: ntfs
version:
uuid: FABC2F49BC2EFFAD
label: Local Disk
partition:
part of: /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sde
scheme: mbr
number: 1
type: 0x07
flags:
offset: 32256
alignment offset: 0
size: 500105217024
label:
uuid:
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cat /proc/self/mountinfo
| Code: | 15 1 8:3 / / rw,noatime - ext3 /dev/root rw,errors=continue,commit=5,barrier=0,data=ordered
16 15 0:3 / /proc rw,relatime - proc proc rw
17 15 0:15 / /lib64/rc/init.d rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime - tmpfs rc-svcdir rw,size=1024k,mode=755
18 15 0:16 / /sys rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime - sysfs sysfs rw
19 18 0:6 / /sys/kernel/debug rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime - debugfs debugfs rw
20 15 0:17 / /dev rw,nosuid,relatime - tmpfs udev rw,size=10240k,mode=755
21 20 0:9 / /dev/pts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime - devpts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620
22 20 0:18 / /dev/shm rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime - tmpfs shm rw
23 15 8:1 / /boot rw,noatime - ext2 /dev/sda1 rw,errors=continue
24 16 0:14 / /proc/bus/usb rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime - usbfs usbfs rw,devgid=85,devmode=664
25 16 0:19 / /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime - binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw
26 15 8:65 / /media/Local\040Disk rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime - ntfs /dev/sde1 rw,uid=0,gid=0,fmask=0177,dmask=077,nls=utf8,errors=continue,mft_zone_multiplier=1
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| Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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HDD is mountable but only readble how to set tham to be writeble ?
Problem soved
just add in
and that fixed my problem
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| put ntfs-3g in /etc/filesystem fixed my problem too. |
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rado3105
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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also in here solved, putting ntfs-3g in /etc/filesystems
also work for policykit/dbus/udev.
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