upgraded to xorg 1.10, no mouse, no keyboard [WORKAROUND]

[Oo.et.oO]

[EDIT]: scroll to end of thread to see workaround. this is not a fix, just skirts some other problem i'm having with udev/evdev

i tried to post this in desktop environments, but "new post" or whatever just lead me back to the forum index. ??

my xorg.conf is the minimal 4 lines to use nvidia proprietary drivers.

the 1.10 upgrade guide here: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.10-upgrade-guide.xml
says: Xorg no longer does autodetect devices using xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse. If you want your input devices hotplugged, please migrate your settings to the xf86-input-evdev driver.

i've been using gentoo for 10 years, and linux for 15. i recognize much of that as english, but the paragraph as a whole is a complete mystery to me.
i have no need for my keyboard and mouse to be hotplug-able (coldplugable?), but they are USB, so it follows they can/should be.

but i hvae NO idea how to "migrate [my] settings to the xf86-input-evdev driver", particularly because the X Server configuration howto from gentoo says that you no longer need an xorg.conf file and it should "just work".

in make.conf i have:

[molot]

#emerge x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev

Worked?
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[DaggyStyle]

try rebuilding the drivers again, it happens to me more than once.
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[Oo.et.oO]

thanks for the replies, all. i've rebuild the drivers several times. still no keyboard nor mouse

i just noticed that new X Server configuration howto says to only use INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" (and synaptics in their setup). should i remove mouse and keyboard from there and remove those drivers?

[edit]: removed the mouse and keyboard driver packages, left only evdev in INPUT_DEVICES. rebuilt xorg-drivers and xf86-input-evdev to no avail.
i even tried adding a 30-keyboard.conf to xorg.conf.d, just to enable ctrl-alt-bksp server killswitch, but that hasn't changed anything...
note: keyboard and mouse work fine in the terminal

[VoidMage]

Is udev running ?
Are the input nodes properly tagged and env vars on them set ?

Also, is that the whole log ? If not, pastebin it.

[Oo.et.oO]

[molot]

I don't know what to say more. I had the same problem. I solved it in that order: recompiled (upgraded) kernel, rebooted, upgraded udev and made sure it's running (at first it was somehow misconfigured and init.d script returned OK, but in the log it was shown it's dead just after that), re-emerged all 3 drivers (mouse, keyboard and evdev). At the end I ran revdep-rebuild. And that was all for me. No more ideas, sorry.

Edit:
Wait, what? Your xorg.conf does not contain keyboard info?!

Here is mine, except comments:

[Oo.et.oO]

thanks for all your info. unfortunately it's not helping my situation.

apparently mice and keyboards are now handled by evdev, and a custom xorg.conf is not required except to give certain options. in these cases you use the files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
none of these files existed for me.

it thus uses the xorg.conf from /usr/share/blah/blah
and tries to figure everything out. this works if you are using nvidia hw and the OSS (neuvau sp?) drivers. but they don't work (well) for my card.

anyway, i tried using the mouse driver as well as the evdev driver for my mouse in a version of your config file, but that didn't work either.

this is driving me nuts. i can control my desktop for now through VNC from my other machine. but that's quite limiting. not to mention the x11vnc server seems to crash X (or did before i did this emerge world)

[VoidMage]

@molot: I'm nearly certain, that both of those sections aren't used.

@Oo.et.oO: I'm asking for 'udevadm info' on those nodes.

[Oo.et.oO]

[hvengel]

Same thing happened to me. I down graded xorg-server to 1.9.5 and the problem went away. There are other reports of the same issue here. So this appears to be a fairly common issue with xorg-server-1.10.2. A bug has been opened here:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364121

It appears that this user only had an issue with the mouse.

[VoidMage]

@Oo.et.oO:
- not '-a'
- use name of /dev node, not sysfs one
- use '-q all'

[molot]

[Oo.et.oO]

syntax for udevadm is FUNKY. still not really sure what i was asking this thing. why is that a name and not a path??. i digress

[chithanh]

It is strange that the X server does not even attempt to load the evdev driver. Is /sys mounted? /dev/input contains your keyboard and mouse? /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf exists?

[Oo.et.oO]

i had nothing in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ i had to create the dir when i added a file for a keyboard option i want (ctrl-alt-bksp).
i couldn't find anything that would restore that directory (i never had it in older versions of xorg of course).
i think it might be a relic of older configuration setups.

the log file says it's using:

[VoidMage]

[Oo.et.oO]

[Oo.et.oO]

am i supposed to have a /run directory?

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6673933.html#6673933

[Oo.et.oO]

FYI. i had to downgrade kernels to 2.6.37 because openafs <=1.4.14 won't run/build on 2.6.38.

i rebuilt all the xserver and drivers, and i still get no mouse/keyboard. udev still reports them the same way.

here is my kernel .config just for kicks:

[Oo.et.oO]

switched back to 1.9.4. still no mouse nor keyboard.

this has to be an evdev or udev problem, no?

i re-merged udev making sure my rules were updated:

[OldTango]

[Oo.et.oO]

found a workaround!

i found this bug here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/318181
they say this isn't a fix really, just skirts another problem some of us are having with udev/evdev


so my entire xorg.conf looks like thus:

[colinxp]

I had also this problem after upgrading to xorg 1.10. No mouse and no keyboard.
I have re-emerged xf86-video-intel, xf86-input-evdev, xf86-video-fbdev, xorg-server and then rebooted my computer.
Mouse and keyboard are working now.

[ultraincognito]