Any hints to buy new completely intel free hardware?

Roman_Gruber

I had my issues in the past with snd_hda_intel, intel_gpus, intel platform controller hub and intel speedstep technology.

How can i determine before buying an am4 mainboard with x570 chipset that the mainboard, soundcard, networking and graphic card is completely intel free? How can I determine before buying that the bios implementation is working and not broken as for example on many intel based notebooks?

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:52 am Post subject:

Roman_Gruber.

The X570 is an AMD platform, so most of these issues go away.

snd-hda-intel is a specification Much like AC'97 which it replaced. The problems stem from different implementers interpreting the specification differently, which makes ALSA job difficult.
In short, you probably can't avoid that in the on board sound chip.

The work around is a plug in sound card ... but most of them are snd-hda-intel too.
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Tony0945 · Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:27 pm Post subject:

ASUS Prime X570-Pro It has the sound chip NeddySeagoon mentioned and an Intel Lan (which works flawlessly)

I run a low power nouveau card, GeForce GT1030. if you game or do graphic design you probably want something more powerful (and power hungry).
Just works with the nouveau driver built as a module. To be honest, I haven't tried sound yet. The computer is still in the basement workshop but i can log in via ssh and remote X and do everything. If you buy it, I'll be glad to pastebin my kernel config.
Intel LAN's are widely recognized as premium. I think your beef is with Intel CPU's and/or video.
Warning, expensive. But I plan on using this mobo for at least ten years. It will probably outlast me.

My last Intel CPU was the 486DX-100

Jaglover · Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:47 pm Post subject:

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If you call "problems", the things you had with Intel, you probably hadn't had real problems with something like nvidia ION (nvidia in general), Marvell chips, some crappy usb 3.0 controllers not by Intel (circa. 2010), Broadcom wireless etc. Intel is not the worst offender here and generally well supported (including GPU), their LAN chips are actually one of the best.

Tony0945 · Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:04 pm Post subject:

Jaglover · Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:20 pm Post subject:

Expensive mobo vs. cheap, I do not pay for features I do not use. More expensive boards can handle multiple graphics cards and offer superior data throughput and FPS, means nothing for me. They may have more SATA ports and more USB ports. Couldn't care less. Two drives in my current desktop is already one too many. I have plenty of USB ports for my needs. There are ways to add more should I need, but I don't. My ASRock H270M Pro4 is rather old, survived a week long flood in my house and is still going strong. Yes, it was under water for 7 days in 2016. :twisted:

I don't remember how much did it cost, but I'm sure it was a cheap one.

(I think I paid at least four times more for my server Supermicro mobo.)
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CooSee · Veteran Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 1456 Location: Earth

ASUS is awful - to expensive and poor support - bad BIOS.

i don't know much about AMD systems - most things in these days are 'overhyped' anyway, imho.

i always used Intel systems, because Intel is stable and just works.

my Intel® Xeon(R) CPU E3-1245 v5 system on MSI mainboard (C236A) with 32GB RAM is stable as hell, even if compiling 24h.

and it's working great as 'hackintosh' too

and yes, most of the companies are lying about security anyway.

oh, i have actually a AMD Graphics Card (Radeon RX 590) and it is the most annoying Card i ever bought - sometimes glitches here and there, from the first start.

and all the prizes nowadays are shameless :!:

i payed only 643 € for mainboard + cpu + 32GB ram (4 years ago).

don't belive the hype.

just my two cents.
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Goverp · Advocate Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 2023

I've been using an ASUS tuf Ggaming X570-plus wifi (I didn't need the wifi, but the shop I got it from was out of the non-wifi boards, and the bluetooth is occaisionaly useful). No problems; the BIOS is easy to use and works; I've updated it a few times, on the principle that is was a very new MB at the time I bought it. Its set up as UEFI booting, secure boot turned off, into GRUB as a boot manager. The cpu is a Ryzen 2 3900X, and an old RX470 graphics card, so as far as I could, it's all AMD.
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Tony0945 · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:49 pm Post subject:

Tony0945 · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:54 pm Post subject:

I have a socket 939 Biostar mobo running Windows 7 24/7 right now. it's so old It needs a PATA drive to boot, although it have a SATA-1 connecter for storage only. This is a cheap brand but runs very well. I have no idea whether Biostar recent boards are any good.

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Tony0945 · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:36 pm Post subject:

Roman_Gruber · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:47 am Post subject:

Thanks guys, appreciated.

Tony0945 · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:02 pm Post subject:

Let us know what you decided on. inquiring minds want to know.