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 Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:08 pm Post subject: [Genkernel] Problem for compiling (Resolving) |
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Hi,
I'd like to install Gentoo, but first I must partionnate and formate my hard drive.
I run an USB Bootable, then it proposes me to Default, Gentoo X86, etc...
Therefore, I don't know if I must use fdisk before runnning the LiveDVD, or not since
I don't know how I can run fdisk.
My PC is a Netbook NC 10 Samsung.
Please can you help me?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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@Antione_7, Welcome to Gentoo. You boot the install CD, then you partition the hard drive.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| John R. Graham wrote: | @Antione_7, Welcome to Gentoo. You boot the install CD, then you partition the hard drive.
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Thank's but for example I boot with other CD it can do I run fdisk or how can I use fdisk? |
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The Gentoo install CDs all have fdisk on them. So, when you boot the Gentoo minimal install CD or LiveCD, you will have access to the fdisk program. Take a look at the Handbook, Chapter 4. Preparing the Disks.
Or, do I misunderstand you?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| John R. Graham wrote: | The Gentoo install CDs all have fdisk on them. So, when you boot the Gentoo minimal install CD or LiveCD, you will have access to the fdisk program. Take a look at the Handbook, Chapter 4. Preparing the Disks.
Or, do I misunderstand you?
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Thank's It's right, but the other problem is I don´t know something: I run the LiveDVD (2.3 Go) and I must begin to select option default or other? Or I must write fdisk anywhere?
What are the steps, please? |
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Antione_7,
Welcome to Gentoo.
Exactly which ISO file did you download to put on your USB drive?
The full name please, that will tell us how the DVD starts.
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| NeddySeagoon wrote: | Antione_7,
Welcome to Gentoo.
Exactly which ISO file did you download to put on your USB drive?
The full name please, that will tell us how the DVD starts. |
The name is livedvd-x86-amd64-32ul-11.0.iso |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Antione_7,
That ISO should give you a prompt. Just press return.
IF you don't get the boot prompt, something went wrong early in the startup process.
Your NC10 netbook has a Intel Atom N270 CPU. Thats a 32 bit CPU. You cannot run the amd64 options.
The liveDVD does not provide a binary installer as you might expect from most Linux DVDs. Its intended to allow you to sample Gentoo only.
You will still have to install by following the handbook.
The liveDVD does provide a GUI while you install.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| NeddySeagoon wrote: | Antione_7,
That ISO should give you a prompt. Just press return.
IF you don't get the boot prompt, something went wrong early in the startup process.
Your NC10 netbook has a Intel Atom N270 CPU. Thats a 32 bit CPU. You cannot run the amd64 options.
The liveDVD does not provide a binary installer as you might expect from most Linux DVDs. Its intended to allow you to sample Gentoo only.
You will still have to install by following the handbook.
The liveDVD does provide a GUI while you install. |
It significates I can't use the liveDVD to install Gentoo or I can if I do all manually following the Handbook?
Thank you, maybe it could be better if I install Debian, what do you think? |
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Gentoo's always installed from a Stage 3 file and a portage snapshot; you need to boot some
sort of Linux to handle filesystem formatting, and other Linux-related activities. You can use
the Gentoo Live DVD, or any othe DVD/CD which will run Linux on your system, to fetch
the stage 3 file and set everything up.
Unfortunately, since Stage 3 files change every week (day?) there isn't one on the Live DVD
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| Antione_7 wrote: | | It significates I can't use the liveDVD to install Gentoo or I can if I do all manually following the Handbook? |
Installing Gentoo is indeed a manual process following the Handbook. There are benefits, outlined here, but there are also costs. If you want an automated install, you're better off looking at something else. Debian is a fine choice.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| John R. Graham wrote: | | Antione_7 wrote: | | It significates I can't use the liveDVD to install Gentoo or I can if I do all manually following the Handbook? |
Installing Gentoo is indeed a manual process following the Handbook. There are benefits, outlined here, but there are also costs. If you want an automated install, you're better off looking at something else. Debian is a fine choice.
- John |
Thank you, I understood, I tried to instal Debian but the kernel image is corrupted and I think it's the case of all because I tried with various sources from the web, one time with an iso complete and other time installing I was connected and it propose me various mirror that I tried (not all, because there are many mirrors more than ...). All I tried got kernel image corrupted.
So, I understood the benefits of Gentoo and I have decided to install it but even if I read the Handbook it's possible there are many things I'll not understand and it'll be necesaary someone from this forum could help me for clarifying some things I didn't understand.
Ready to help me?
At the moment, I think:
First, I must use fdisk to prepare my hard disk
Then, I must configurate my web connection.
Then I must download and install the Gentoo kernel image,
Then I have to install the Portage
But which handbook must I use (x86?)?, and which .iso must I use (minimal installation)?
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Antoine_7, don't you already have the Gentoo LiveDCD? That's fine for installing Gentoo. What we were trying to say before is that the LiveDVD does not contain an automatic installer. Even with the LiveDVD, you still have to perform the manual steps outlined in the Handbook. Open a terminal window and follow the Handbook. Yes, the x86 Handbook is the correct one for you.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| John R. Graham wrote: | Antoine_7, don't you already have the Gentoo LiveDCD? That's fine for installing Gentoo. What we were trying to say before is that the LiveDVD does not contain an automatic installer. Even with the LiveDVD, you still have to perform the manual steps outlined in the Handbook. Open a terminal window and follow the Handbook. Yes, the x86 Handbook is the correct one for you.
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OO I'm sorry, I was not understanding. So it's good I will follow the handbook step by step using the liveDVD (I have got) and if I have a problem during the installation I will ask you.
Thank you!
(I boot the liveDVD then there are options default, x86, etc..., I press Escape to begin the manual installation, right?)
The steps of manual installation are:
1. Configuring your network.
2. Preparing the disk
3. Installaing the Gentoo installation files
4. Installing the gentoo base system
5. Configuring the Kernel
6. Configuring your system
7. Installing necesary system tools
8. Configuring the Bootloader
9. Finalizing your Gentoo Installation
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That's right. Now you've got it! 
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| John R. Graham wrote: | That's right. Now you've got it!
- John |
I tried to install Gentoo, I read the Handbook, I wrote all of the commands it proposes to configurate the network, and I tried to write fdisk and nothing... So I ask how must I begin to install gentoo?
I run the liveDVD:
Default
Gentoo x86
Gentoo x86 nofb
.....etc......
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Tab to add options
If I press Escape I have, boot:
Please can you help me?
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Antione_7,
Booting the liveDVD takes you to a KDE desktop. From there, open a terminal window.
In the terminal, type and press return.
You are now in the root shell you need to start following the handbook.
If something does not go quite right, stop and tell us about it. Your install can be continued from where you left off.
You may need to repeat a few steps but not everything.
You can also get real time help in #gentoo at irc.freenode.net. #gentoo is English only. There are language channels too.
Try #gentoo-<lang_code> or #gentoo.<lang-code>
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| Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:08 am Post subject: |
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Thank you,
I began to install gentoo but I try to configurate the network and it seems it isn't good since when I want to download the stage tarball it says "host not found".
How I can configurate my network?, it's wifi, I know the ssid and the wep key, that's all.
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I dowloaded the stage3 but now I don't know where is it? so I can't unpack it.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Finally I had installed the stage3 and the portage. and more. I will post when I achieve the installation.
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Using genkernel to configurate the kernel:
ERROR: Failed to compile the "bzImage" target ...
So I configurate manually the kernel
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| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Manually, this appears:
make[1]? *** No rule to make target '/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-100-5.ucode', needed by 'firmware/iwlwifi-100-5.ucode.gen.o'. Stop.
make? *** [firmware] Error 2
I will finally install Kubuntu, but I will try agin to install Gentoo later.
Thank you all.
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Hi!
So, I tried to install Debian the image is corrupted, then I tried to install Kubuntu, it run but it contains various bugs.
Then I tried to install Fedora 15 with the Live CD, the live CD run but when I press the icon for installing it, it loads until an infinite time.
So, what do it rest for me?
Linux Mint, Ubuntu (Netbook),...
I like Gentoo (when I tried the liveDVD) but at the moment to confuring and compile the kernel it occurs an error.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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In my opinion you're bouncing around too much between distributions and solutions, giving up too soon. I think, because of your lack of knowledge, you're encountering issues that are probably solvable with a little help. My advice is, stick to something!
If you decide that the something that you're going to stick to is Gentoo, then we'll help you through the issues. My second piece of advice is that you go back to the Gentoo install and use genkernel to compile the kernel. The error you reported was not the real error, though, but just basically the final output of genkernel reporting that there was an error somewhere. If you scrolled back, you would see the actual error, which you could post here for us to help you with.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I accept I will install again Gentoo, and I will post here when I've got a problem.
Thank you,
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