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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:05 pm    Post subject: Should I merge Xscreensaver after installing Gnome? Reply with quote

Why does

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/desktop.xml

state that I have to merge xscreensaver in addition to doing "emerge gnome"? I see on my system that xscreensaver has already been installed by doing "emerge gnome". Do I still have to merge xscreensaver? By doing "emerge -p xscreensaver" I see that quite a few other packages other than xscreensaver would be installed or upgraded:

root@hq alex # emerge -p xscreensaver

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/ORBit-0.5.17
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2
[ebuild N ] media-libs/gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/libxml-1.8.17-r2
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/oaf-0.6.10
[ebuild U ] gnome-base/gconf-1.0.8-r5 [2.2.1]
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-common-1.2.4-r3
[ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r3 [2.2.5]
[ebuild U ] gnome-base/control-center-1.4.0.5-r1 [2.2.2]
[ebuild U ] gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6 [2.0.1]
[ebuild R ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.10


Any suggestions whether i should do "emerge xscreensaver" or not?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um. You probably don't need to. The little R next to xscreensaver means reinstall, so it's already there. However, its dependencies (such as gconf-1.x) aren't. I dunno, really.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the desktop guide is a bit out of date and assumes that xscreensaver isn't a dependency of gnome when it now is. If it works there's no need to emerge it again.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I emerged gnome and xscreensaver works without any problems. For some cool screensavers try emerging rss-glx.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

twisted_steel wrote:
I emerged gnome and xscreensaver works without any problems. For some cool screensavers try emerging rss-glx.


arghh... i did emerge rss-glx but it also installed kdebase and something else from kde and now i have such a horrible "KDE menu" at the buttom of my applications menu in gnome although i do not want KDE stuff...

is rss-glx only for KDE???
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

after emerging rss-glx are they just added to the list? I cant find them.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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is rss-glx only for KDE???

No, but it does have some optional kde stuff. If you put "-kde -qt -arts" in your USE flags, and then kde related packages will only be installed if they're really needed.

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after emerging rss-glx are they just added to the list? I cant find them.

They should be. You can see what they look like here: http://www.reallyslick.com/.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fifo wrote:
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is rss-glx only for KDE???

No, but it does have some optional kde stuff. If you put "-kde -qt -arts" in your USE flags, and then kde related packages will only be installed if they're really needed.

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after emerging rss-glx are they just added to the list? I cant find them.

They should be. You can see what they look like here: http://www.reallyslick.com/.


i don't know why rss-glx also installs kdebase and kdeartwork!! if i have kde, then i already HAVE kdebase and kdeartwork and if i don't have kde installed, then there is obviously no need to install kdebase and kdeartwork with rss-glx, because those would be installed ANYWAY if i installed kde.... and it just can't be that rss-glx needs kde stuff for gnome-only operation...

shitty dependencies, i really must say...

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ps. sorry for shouting a bit :)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nex_tym wrote:
after emerging rss-glx are they just added to the list? I cant find them.

thanks


to which list?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i don't know why rss-glx also installs kdebase and kdeartwork!!

I'm not sure what this kde support does, since I don't use kde, but my point is that these packages are only dependences because you've got "kde" in your USE flags (it's the default). You should edit /etc/make.conf and change your use flags to:
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USE="-kde -qt -arts"

then you can remerge it and remove kdebase/kdeartwork.

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to which list?

The xscreensaver list, which you can find under desktop preferences on the gnome menu, in the advanced section.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

# USE="X gnome gtk -kde -qt -arts" emerge rss-glx

that way you don't have to make any changes to /etc/make.conf, but the extra kde-stuffs aren't emerged. This will just set those flags for this emerge run...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get an error message initially running gnome that says xscreensaver won't work or whatever...

When I try to emerge xscreensaver this is what happens- ideas?

X11 # emerge xscreensaver
Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 3) media-libs/netpbm-9.12-r4 to /

!!! File is corrupt or incomplete. (Digests do not match)
>>> our recorded digest: 6de9fb5133763d30f1ae707b4b115cfe
>>> your file's digest: 29e25473229349c9529b3996948ec293
!!! File does not exist: /usr/portage/distfiles//netpbm-9.12.tgz

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I merge Xscreensaver after installing Gnome? Reply with quote

midnightrambler wrote:
I have to merge xscreensaver in addition to doing "emerge gnome"?


Ok, you don't have to do it, but doing so puts it in your "world" file. This means if new XSS are released ( and they often are ), they will get installed by 'emerge -u world' even if no new version of Gnome has been released that depends on the new version of XSS.

I wrote some screensavers for XSS but they never went in because they used XFT and getting it to work on all the XSS supported platforms was too hard ( VMS?! ). :-/ Jamie said one was pretty though!

Patientzero: WRT your question, just nuke /usr/portage/distfiles/netpbm* - you have a corrupted download in your cache.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks! That did the trick!

Perfect!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bod:

If I had some corrupt stuffs in the portage deal, could that also lead to improper installs and such? How can i check for this (asking not knowing whether or not this ia loaded question)
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