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tomtomp
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 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:11 am Post subject: New graphics card (ATI) |
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Hi, I bought new raphics card (ATI HD 6950) I installed it and all went well, but now when I run glx gears I get:
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34169 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6833.714 FPS
34427 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6885.330 FPS
34324 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6864.661 FPS
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I was getting about 8000 on my old ati hd 3870... also CPU is being heavily used, shouldnt the GPU process it?
+ fgl_glxgears
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Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
14665 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2933.000 FPS
15379 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3075.800 FPS
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here is my Xorg:
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#Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "Mouse0"
# Driver "mouse"
# Option "Protocol" "auto"
# Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
# Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
#EndSection
#Section "Monitor"
# Identifier "Monitor0"
# VendorName "SAM"
# ModelName "SAMSUNG"
# HorizSync 26.0 - 76.0
# VertRefresh 23.0 - 61.0
#EndSection
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 1920 0
Screen "aticonfig-Screen[0]-1" 0 0
InputDevice "Evdev Mouse" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "glx"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "record"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Evdev Mouse"
Driver "evdev"
Option "Name" "Corsair Corsair Vengeance M90 Mouse"
Option "evBits" "+1-2"
Option "keyBits" "~272-287"
Option "relBits" "~0-2 ~6 ~8"
Option "Pass" "3"
Option "CorePointer"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
Option "DPMS" "true"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-1"
Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
Option "DPMS" "true"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "0-DFP1"
Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
Option "DPMS" "true"
Option "PreferredMode" "1920x1080"
Option "TargetRefresh" "60"
Option "Position" "0 0"
Option "Rotate" "normal"
Option "Disable" "false"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "0-DFP2"
Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
Option "DPMS" "true"
Option "PreferredMode" "1920x1080"
Option "TargetRefresh" "60"
Option "Position" "0 0"
Option "Rotate" "normal"
Option "Disable" "false"
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz",
### <percent>: "<f>%"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "Dac8Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "BusType" # [<str>]
#Option "CPPIOMode" # [<bool>]
#Option "CPusecTimeout" # <i>
#Option "AGPMode" # <i>
#Option "AGPFastWrite" # [<bool>]
#Option "AGPSize" # <i>
#Option "GARTSize" # <i>
#Option "RingSize" # <i>
#Option "BufferSize" # <i>
#Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [<bool>]
#Option "EnablePageFlip" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoBackBuffer" # [<bool>]
#Option "DMAForXv" # [<bool>]
#Option "FBTexPercent" # <i>
#Option "DepthBits" # <i>
#Option "PCIAPERSize" # <i>
#Option "AccelDFS" # [<bool>]
#Option "IgnoreEDID" # [<bool>]
#Option "CustomEDID" # [<str>]
#Option "DisplayPriority" # [<str>]
#Option "PanelSize" # [<str>]
#Option "ForceMinDotClock" # <freq>
#Option "ColorTiling" # [<bool>]
#Option "VideoKey" # <i>
#Option "RageTheatreCrystal" # <i>
#Option "RageTheatreTunerPort" # <i>
#Option "RageTheatreCompositePort" # <i>
#Option "RageTheatreSVideoPort" # <i>
#Option "TunerType" # <i>
#Option "RageTheatreMicrocPath" # <str>
#Option "RageTheatreMicrocType" # <str>
#Option "ScalerWidth" # <i>
#Option "RenderAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "SubPixelOrder" # [<str>]
#Option "ClockGating" # [<bool>]
#Option "VGAAccess" # [<bool>]
#Option "ReverseDDC" # [<bool>]
#Option "LVDSProbePLL" # [<bool>]
#Option "AccelMethod" # <str>
#Option "DRI" # [<bool>]
#Option "ConnectorTable" # <str>
#Option "DefaultConnectorTable" # [<bool>]
#Option "DefaultTMDSPLL" # [<bool>]
#Option "TVDACLoadDetect" # [<bool>]
#Option "ForceTVOut" # [<bool>]
#Option "TVStandard" # <str>
#Option "IgnoreLidStatus" # [<bool>]
#Option "DefaultTVDACAdj" # [<bool>]
#Option "Int10" # [<bool>]
#Option "EXAVSync" # [<bool>]
#Option "ATOMTVOut" # [<bool>]
#Option "R4xxATOM" # [<bool>]
#Option "ForceLowPowerMode" # [<bool>]
#Option "DynamicPM" # [<bool>]
#Option "NewPLL" # [<bool>]
#Option "ZaphodHeads" # <str>
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "fglrx"
Option "UseFastTLS" "2"
Option "Monitor-DFP1" "0-DFP1"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
Driver "fglrx"
Option "UseFastTLS" "2"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]-1"
Driver "fglrx"
Option "UseFastTLS" "2"
Option "Monitor-DFP2" "0-DFP2"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
Screen 1
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0"
Device "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-1"
Device "aticonfig-Device[0]-1"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
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I am not too good at configuring it, all help welcomed  .
glxinfo | grep rendering:
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direct rendering: Yes
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Is theese fps normal? I tried playing Skyrim in wine but on lowest it had realy low fps 
Thanx for any help 
ps: I will try unmerge ad reemerge ati-drivers in the meanwhile 
pps: lspci -v -s 01:00.0
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01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 6719 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: PC Partner Limited Device 186b
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 47
Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at f5000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
I/O ports at b000 [size=256]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at f4000000 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: fglrx_pci
Kernel modules: fglrx
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Hello,
| Quote: | | I bought new raphics card (ATI HD 6950) |
Sorry, an Nvidia card would have been a better buy.
Have fun with your card (well, sort of  ).
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tomtomp
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Heh... right
I still think ATI is better than NVIDIA , they just supported linux first.
ps: I looked at test of this Graphics card on phoronix and they got better results than me...
pps: I dont think system is fully using GPU because graphical programs (opengl) are using loads of CPU... any ideas? |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:33 am Post subject: |
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please post the output of glxinfo | grep render ; eselect opengl list
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tomtomp
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Here:
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direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series
GL_KTX_buffer_region, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_conditional_render,
Available OpenGL implementations:
[1] ati *
[2] xorg-x11
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Gusar
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| tomtomp wrote: | | I still think ATI is better than NVIDIA |
Not when it comes to Linux. And especially not with wine.
That said, have you checked the wine appdb if there are maybe some magic incantations to get Skyrim working optimally? |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| j_c_p wrote: | Hello,
| Quote: | | I bought new raphics card (ATI HD 6950) |
Sorry, an Nvidia card would have been a better buy.
Have fun with your card (well, sort of ). |
brilliant idea! why wouldn't you pay for his new nVidia card then?
frankly, if you don't have anything useful to contribute to a topic, don't.
it is disrespectful.
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Veldrin
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply - I was wonder, whether opengl was properly configured, and it is.
| Quote: | Is theese fps normal? I tried playing Skyrim in wine but on lowest it had realy low fps
Thanx for any help |
Please note, that neither glxgears, nor fglrx_gears are valid benchmarking tools. IMO they give you a reasonable idea if opengl is working, and being accelerated via graphics card.
In addition wine offers only a limited implementation of directx. IIRC Skyrim is a pretty recent game, just I am not sureprised, that is runs slow.
On a sidenote: I recently tried guildwars on wine, and to play it properly, I had to drop to directx8 and disable any shaders. Otherwise I had some severe graphic issues. (using the latest fglrx/ati-drivers on a HD6870)
@Gusar: From experience NVIDIA using the binary drivers works better and more stable on Linux than ATI with their binary blob. Using the open source drivers it seems the other way around. What are you basing you statement on?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| DaggyStyle wrote: | | j_c_p wrote: | Hello,
| Quote: | | I bought new raphics card (ATI HD 6950) |
Sorry, an Nvidia card would have been a better buy.
Have fun with your card (well, sort of ). |
brilliant idea! why wouldn't you pay for his new nVidia card then?
frankly, if you don't have anything useful to contribute to a topic, don't.
it is disrespectful. |
With the price of an ATI HD 6950 card, you can buy another card from Nvidia which performs better under Linux (and Wine) ... that's the state of the ATI cards, and, it's not a brilliant idea to choose a better card for the same price, it's the way to process.
It looks like you are a little bit on the other side of OS : Linux is not Windows, and the best cards aren't the same !
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| j_c_p wrote: | | DaggyStyle wrote: | | j_c_p wrote: | Hello,
| Quote: | | I bought new raphics card (ATI HD 6950) |
Sorry, an Nvidia card would have been a better buy.
Have fun with your card (well, sort of ). |
brilliant idea! why wouldn't you pay for his new nVidia card then?
frankly, if you don't have anything useful to contribute to a topic, don't.
it is disrespectful. |
With the price of an ATI HD 6950 card, you can buy another card from Nvidia which performs better under Linux (and Wine) ... that's the state of the ATI cards, and, it's not a brilliant idea to choose a better card for the same price, it's the way to process.
It looks like you are a little bit on the other side of OS : Linux is not Windows, and the best cards aren't the same ! |
where did I wrote that ATI are better than nVidia? you need to read better.
I don't care less he got ATI, you think that he made the wrong choice or pbp ratio, he has a problem, he came here for help, your post didn't helped a bit, it was more of a "Ha Ha!" post, that is disrespectful.
speaking of OS side, "Ha Ha" posts can be seen on daily basis on windows boards written by wannabe kids who think they know it all because they can operate windows better than the average user but they are rarely seen on linux forums.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| DaggyStyle wrote: | | j_c_p wrote: | | DaggyStyle wrote: | | j_c_p wrote: | Hello,
| Quote: | | I bought new raphics card (ATI HD 6950) |
Sorry, an Nvidia card would have been a better buy.
Have fun with your card (well, sort of ). |
brilliant idea! why wouldn't you pay for his new nVidia card then?
frankly, if you don't have anything useful to contribute to a topic, don't.
it is disrespectful. |
With the price of an ATI HD 6950 card, you can buy another card from Nvidia which performs better under Linux (and Wine) ... that's the state of the ATI cards, and, it's not a brilliant idea to choose a better card for the same price, it's the way to process.
It looks like you are a little bit on the other side of OS : Linux is not Windows, and the best cards aren't the same ! |
where did I wrote that ATI are better than nVidia? you need to read better.
I don't care less he got ATI, you think that he made the wrong choice or pbp ratio, he has a problem, he came here for help, your post didn't helped a bit, it was more of a "Ha Ha!" post, that is disrespectful.
speaking of OS side, "Ha Ha" posts can be seen on daily basis on windows boards written by wannabe kids who think they know it all because they can operate windows better than the average user but they are rarely seen on linux forums. |
Your post didn't helped a bit : yours is certainly better, as I can read, you add nothing except quoting me and say "blabla blabla ...".
I understand better the number of your interventions in the Gentoo forums.
Thanks for all, that's very useful for tomtomp.
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tomtomp
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Great... flameware , now realy, I think its because the drivers arent optimized yet (I hope )
In the meantime, anyone have some tricks for better performance?
ps: could any forummaster clear it here a bit? |
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| Veldrin wrote: | | @Gusar: From experience NVIDIA using the binary drivers works better and more stable on Linux than ATI with their binary blob. Using the open source drivers it seems the other way around. What are you basing you statement on? |
It's well known that for a long time the wine devs were only testing on the nvidia blob. It's because all other drivers were in such a state that the devs couldn't know whether the issue was in the driver or in their wine code. With the nvidia blob though, they could be sure the issue was in wine. This has changed quite a bit over time, but still, for wine the nvidia blob is king and fglrx still has lots of issues. The nvidia blob is also king when it comes to hardware video decoding (VDPAU), the second place being held by Intel (VAAPI), the fglrx situation being, in a word, ugh.
Now when we come to the open drivers... on both sides the open driver is quite a bit slower than the blobs, 3x-5x slower depending on game, sometimes even more. The big issue for nouveau is no reclocking support (switching the card to a higher performance level). It's coming for not-Fermi cards in kernel 3.4, but even with reclocking nouveau will reach at most 60% of the blob's performance. The open ati driver does have some reclocking support (different profiles, including dynamic switching), but you can read around, like say at the Phoronix forums, that it's not really it either - power consumption being high even on the lowest level (and this level being too low for smooth compositing), flickering during dynamic switches and such. So there's a lot of work needed in this area for both drivers.
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DaggyStyle
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| j_c_p wrote: | | DaggyStyle wrote: | | j_c_p wrote: | | DaggyStyle wrote: | | j_c_p wrote: | Hello,
| Quote: | | I bought new raphics card (ATI HD 6950) |
Sorry, an Nvidia card would have been a better buy.
Have fun with your card (well, sort of ). |
brilliant idea! why wouldn't you pay for his new nVidia card then?
frankly, if you don't have anything useful to contribute to a topic, don't.
it is disrespectful. |
With the price of an ATI HD 6950 card, you can buy another card from Nvidia which performs better under Linux (and Wine) ... that's the state of the ATI cards, and, it's not a brilliant idea to choose a better card for the same price, it's the way to process.
It looks like you are a little bit on the other side of OS : Linux is not Windows, and the best cards aren't the same ! |
where did I wrote that ATI are better than nVidia? you need to read better.
I don't care less he got ATI, you think that he made the wrong choice or pbp ratio, he has a problem, he came here for help, your post didn't helped a bit, it was more of a "Ha Ha!" post, that is disrespectful.
speaking of OS side, "Ha Ha" posts can be seen on daily basis on windows boards written by wannabe kids who think they know it all because they can operate windows better than the average user but they are rarely seen on linux forums. |
Your post didn't helped a bit : yours is certainly better, as I can read, you add nothing except quoting me and say "blabla blabla ...".
I understand better the number of your interventions in the Gentoo forums.
Thanks for all, that's very useful for tomtomp.
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your not even worth it, I contributed enough and will continue, your contribution is still questioned.
btw, the sentence from my sig you've quoted was written to people such as you and the fact that you are unable to comprehend it only strengthen the validity of the sentence.
enjoy the rest of your staying at Gentoo's forums.
tomtomp, there is no flamewar, read the posts.
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tomtomp,
Start off with a simple one display install and optimise that.
When it works, add in the second and then the third.
Unplug the second and third displays and test. You should not need to change xorg.conf.
When it detects just one display, it should be quite happy.
If one display does not JustWork, post the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
That file tells what xorg actually did when it started. xorg.conf tells what you asked it to do.
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