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 Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:31 pm Post subject: Xfce4, full-screen and chat message windows issues |
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HI all.
There's an issue that's been bothering me for a while now, which I have no idea how to solve. On one of my machines do I have to run almost every application full-screen for my screen is at respectable distance and I need to make fonts relatively big, hence the need for full-screen (EDIT: e.g. using the F11 key). My desktop is Xfce 4.8 (not migrated to 4.10 yet).
Now when I have a message with Pidgin, the chat window remains concealed behind any full-screen window. Sometimes it takes minutes to hours until I realize I had a message. Is there something I can do/install/configure to not miss any message or at least reduce the probability to miss them?
Hint: sound is not an option, it must be all visual for the PC is actually connected to my hi-fi system and the PC is not the only audio source.
Thanks in advance for any hint/suggestion.
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| audiodef wrote: | | I just went through the Pidgin prefs and I would have sworn you could have Pidgin bring chat windows to the foreground on new messages. Maybe it used to have this feature but doesn't any more. |
You're not alone  ...
| audiodef wrote: | | I didn't see the option for it, but my Pidgin flashes the tray icon on new messages if the chat window is in the background. Does yours do that? |
It does. The system tray is just not visible when an application is running full-screen .
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| audiodef wrote: | | I didn't see the option for it, but my Pidgin flashes the tray icon on new messages if the chat window is in the background. Does yours do that? |
It does. The system tray is just not visible when an application is running full-screen . |
Oh, I didn't realize there was a full-screen option as opposed to maximized. Would maximized give you what you need?
What if you hack pidgin-blinklight (sunrise overlay) to use your LED of choice, perhaps one or more keyboard LEDs?
Hey, there's a pidgin-led-notification here, too.
Also, what about trying pidgin-libnotify?
pidgin-extprefs might open options that could be helpful.
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| audiodef wrote: | | Oh, I didn't realize there was a full-screen option as opposed to maximized. Would maximized give you what you need? |
Well, not really. I need all the surface of the screen most of the time, panels and bars shall be hidden from the desktop and the title bar, status bar menu bar consume too much space (especially with Firefox), hence full-screen mode.
| audiodef wrote: | | What if you hack pidgin-blinklight (sunrise overlay) to use your LED of choice, perhaps one or more keyboard LEDs? |
:rofl:
Running out of luck, my keyboard has no led, seriously .
| audiodef wrote: | | Also, what about trying pidgin-libnotify? |
Aaaaah, this one seems interesting for I could bet I had something like this installed once and now you're talking about that I'm pretty sure that was it. Will try and report if it adresses my needs. Thanks!
| audiodef wrote: | | pidgin-extprefs might open options that could be helpful. |
Haven't tried that at all. If anything else fails I probably will.
Thanks anyway for your suggestion.
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There's a strange behaviour with libnotify. When I have a window full-screen (terminal, Firefox, whatever) these notifications are hidden. Now if I restore a window to non-full screen, have a notification displayed (hitting the multimedia keys for example) then go full-screen, the notification remains visible. But the next one will be hidden.
I don't know if this behaviour is intended but it's annoying. Really. I'll probably file a bug for this.
EDIT: Rats! It's by design  ! They at launchpad turned off notifications when there are full-screen windows! They seem to be turned off even in a multiple screen configuration where only ONE screen is occupied! Couldn't they make this configurable!
"Could be very annoying when playing a game or watching a movie full-screen"
Curses! And if I want to get annoyed, isn't it my business?
*pissed off*
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| audiodef wrote: | | Maybe another multi-protocol chat program would do a better job than Pidgin. I know there are viable alternatives. |
I believe the ground of this issue really is libnotify and how it's designed. Not sure another multiprotocol chat client would fix this issue (first of to the condition it doesn't use libnotify) because it goes far beyond the scope of chatting.
What's good in libnotify is that the notification window remains relatively small and disappears after a given delay (which should also be programmable while we're at it); it is just useful if I forget about full-screen behaviour. I think I'll go to Launchpad and ask this question to the maintainers. I guess that's the only way...
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Hi, if you use XFCE did you try 'xfce4-notifyd' http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-notifyd
there you can set time for display message but it has same problem that it stays unvisible if you have some fullscreen app.
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I'm not sure I have (I'm not on that machine right now). However the main issue is the notification being hidden with full-screen windows, not the delay.
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