GNOME's future with Gentoo - systemd as a dependency?

[epsilon72]

I've read in some places that systemd may be a dependency for GNOME sometime in the future (possibly as early as 3.4?). How true is this? Wouldn't things get a little messy with systemd and Gentoo since openrc is our default?

Do the Gentoo GNOME devs plan on skipping the systemd dependency or will everyone who runs GNOME in the future be required to modify their boot process to use it?

[mv]

Since GNOME OS is a fixed plan of RedHat, I doubt that gentoo is able to run completely against upstream who do everything they can to force systemd on you.
Maybe this can be avoided for a few minor releases, but not on the long run: If you want gnome you must use GNOME OS.
Actually, I hope that Gentoo will have the guts to kick out completely this factically more and more unfree system - some bigger distributions must show that users are not willing to eat this dictation anymore.

[epsilon72]

I do kind of like gnome-shell but I'm wary of this GNOME OS business (not just for what it does to non-systemd distros, but also for being completely incompatible with OS's like FreeBSD). I had no idea RedHat was involved with it though.

[mv]

In the German discussion forums there was recently a lengthy discussion about this.

It really seems that Redhat planned this on the long hand, and it seems they are also planning to drop desktop support almost completely (which from a commercial viewpoint makes sense, but one of the advantages of free software was that it was not a slave of the market).

Gnome is now actually focussing only on the smart phone/tablett market: Everything which made it is useful for the desktop is systematically being kicked out. The latest example mentioned in the discussion forums is the removal of all settings which made Nautilus useful.
If you look in the bugs how undemocratic the decision about this removal proceeded, you will understand why I call Gnome now a non-free system.