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RedDawn
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 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:40 pm Post subject: IMPRESSED WITH 2.6TEST6 |
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Well guys/gals the tittle says it all.... im really impressed with Kernel 2.6
Fast, Realiable, Responsive, etc....
and i say this becasue RIGHT NOW THIS VERY MOMENT THAT IM WRITTING THIS!!
im running
emerge -u world <----its compilling kde-base!
Xmms, Konqueror, Mldonkey, Limewire, Xine, Apacke, Mysql, Proftpd, etc, Kb3 <--burning a cd..
AND NO SLOWDOWN AT ALL!!!!!!! and im only on a AMD 1800+ (1.53Ghz) 512Mb
with kernel 2.4 i remember i coulnd not burn a cd and listen and watch videos because it would get So DANM SLOW... but IM IMPRESSED!!!
Linux is going BIG!!!!! |
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Sgaduuw
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jaska
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Yep, both kernel sources are excellent. |
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Lovechild
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| jaska wrote: | | Yep, both kernel sources are excellent. |
Vanilla blows goats if you ask me.. it needs serious work. |
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Lunchy
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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So the Love sources actually improve upon the recent changes to the scheduler in 2.6?! Wow, I'm VERY impressed with the speed of 2.6 since test5-r11, it leaves me wondering, how can it be better? I'm not doubting, just wondering. 
Perhaps I should just try'em out and see for myself. I think I'll give it a go tonight. 
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Lovechild
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Lunchy wrote: | So the Love sources actually improve upon the recent changes to the scheduler in 2.6?! Wow, I'm VERY impressed with the speed of 2.6 since test5-r11, it leaves me wondering, how can it be better? I'm not doubting, just wondering.
Perhaps I should just try'em out and see for myself. I think I'll give it a go tonight. |
In my honest, nad very biased, opinion - yes Nick Sched is WAY better than Con's tweaks.
it's simpler, more efficent within the current parameters and it does well under load.
I wish I could take credit for the code, but Nick Piggin (of AS scheduler fame) did this piece of art - he's taken first place as my favorite Linux hacker, he's probably the most friendly hacker i've talked to ever, and he's easy to get to do shit work like debugging |
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RedDawn
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:52 pm Post subject: Whats the Differences? |
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What are the differences between all the sources?
i know there are 4 (ones i've heard correct me if wrong!)
1) Vanilla Sources
2) something called teh mm sources?
3) Love Sources
4) Gentoo Sources
What are the diffences after all they use the same 2.6 kernel right? or what?
thanks IM REALLY confused! |
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TheCoop
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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vanilla - from www.kernel.org, straight development kernel (2.6test6 as of writing)
mm - patched version of development kernel (2.6test6-mm4)
love - straight development kernel with Lovechild's own patches
gentoo - heavily patched 2.4 kernel, standard gentoo kernel. currently at 2.4.20-r7
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-kernel.xml for more info
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neenee
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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the difference between the love-sources
and the others, are that the love-sources
add that warm fuzzy feeling deep down.
you know you want it. |
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Lunchy
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I'm trying to apply the Love patch to the mm4 sources, but it says that all of the patches have already been applied, is that normal, should I be hitting 'yes' or 'no' to reapply? Is there a fast way to his "yes for all" or "no for all"?
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Lovechild
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Whats the Differences? |
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| FearPasion710 wrote: | What are the differences between all the sources?
i know there are 4 (ones i've heard correct me if wrong!)
1) Vanilla Sources
2) something called teh mm sources?
3) Love Sources
4) Gentoo Sources
What are the diffences after all they use the same 2.6 kernel right? or what?
thanks IM REALLY confused! |
Gentoo sources is kernel 2.4 - we ignore this piece of ancient crap for now.
Vanilla is Linus' tree - aka mainline
mm-sources is Andrew Morton's tree - he's appointed the 2.6 maintainer once Linus moves on to 2.7 - he carries lots of strange patches, mainly it serves as a testing ground for new stuff.
Love Sources is my personal tree, it's based on mm-sources but has a new process scheduler and other nice little patches - it was started because I needed a desktop 2.6 kernel this was before Con Kolivas's interactive tweaks hit mainline. I didn't really like Con's tweaks as much as I would like, so I picked up Nick Piggins' process scheduler and right now -love is the only kernel that's used as a testing ground for his work so any testers are valued highly.
Love is experimental without being uber breaky - I haven't seen an oops with -love in versions I've released to the public.
Love is also the testing ground for Reiser4 - sadly this is missing atm since the kernel has changed loads since 2.6.0-test4 for which the lastest Reiser4 snapshot was released... but I promise it will return shortly. |
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RedDawn
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:11 pm Post subject: wow!! |
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Well if you describe it like that it kinda make wanna try out the Love Sources!!
Man you guys! First you guys got me to go 2.6kernel now i just cant help not wanting to go to LoveSources!! 
Ill do it once emerge -u world finishes thanks guys
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RedDawn
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:11 pm Post subject: wow!! |
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Well if you describe it like that it kinda make wanna try out the Love Sources!!
Man you guys! First you guys got me to go 2.6kernel now i just cant help not wanting to go to LoveSources!!
Ill do it once emerge -u world finishes thanks guys
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Lovechild
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Lunchy wrote: | | I'm trying to apply the Love patch to the mm4 sources, but it says that all of the patches have already been applied, is that normal, should I be hitting 'yes' or 'no' to reapply? Is there a fast way to his "yes for all" or "no for all"? |
For safety reasons -love is always a diff against the milestone releases so it applies to -test6, I do this because andrew morton sometimes does several releases within a week and people might get confused.. Also it gives me the option to go back to -wli which I used to be based on, or rolling back to a safe -mm kernel, since Andrew sometimes does "be careful with this one" releases. |
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Lunchy
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Ahhh, ok, got it. Thanks for the help, I got'em running now, and all is well. Woohoo!
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