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chrisashton84
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 Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:56 pm Post subject: Reiserfs Crash killed gentoo :-( |
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So my reiserfs crashed (it was my root partition). Booted the install cd and reiserfsck'd it, it had an error that could 'only be fixed by running --rebuild-tree" so I did that - and got a heck of a lot of numeric files and directories in the 'lost+found' directory. I renamed all that I could figure out but now when gentoo boots it throws errors:
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#dmesg
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FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
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VFS: Mounted root (reiserfs filesystem) readonly.
Trying to move old root to /initrd ... failed
Unmounting old root
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And this is what it shows during the boot:
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---- Detecting USB devices
FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
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Failed to start /etc/init.d/checkroot
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Calculating module dependencies... [ ok ]
Failed to calculate dependencies
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Loading module emu10k1...
Failed to load module emu10k1... [ !! ] (even though dmesg showed it loaded)
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Activating (possibly) more swap... [ ok ]
/sbin/rc: line 297: rm: command not found
Caching service dependencies...
/sbin/depscan.sh: line 31: rm: command not found
:0: assertion failed: system(rm 0f /var/lib/init.d/deptree)
* Failed to cache service dependencies
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Then there's a bunch of lines (30-40) like
/sbin/rc: line 354: ln: command not found
with various commands there (ln, rm, mv, ls, ps)
Also, after I log on I cannot ls, ln, etc - those commands are gone.
Help? Should I try to reinstall these files from the install cd? Or what?
EDIT: find / -name ls finds it in /usr/bin/ls however if it use tab completion to search for /usr/bin/l* it isn't there and i can't run /usr/bin/ls, it doens't find it. This goes for all of the programs it couldn't find earlier. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Welcome to the ranks of those hosed by reiserfs 
Despite the vehement denials by some who apparently have never had trouble with it - we do exist. Reiser is the only filesystem where I've lost data that wasn't due to user error or hardware/media failure; consequentially, I no longer trust it or use it.
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Sgaduuw
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:28 am Post subject: |
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I've had the same problem a long time ago, I'm never using reiserfs again
since ext3 is pretty slow I've decided to experiment a bit, I'm quite happy with jfs and xfs 
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ben_h
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:58 am Post subject: |
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I seriously doubt it was caused by reiserfs itself. The code that you claim borked works perfectly for hundreds of thousands of people.
It's probably susceptible to some sort of error, maybe a specific corruption brought on by a flipped bit in memory, etc etc, I don't know. Anything -- but I doubt it's just reiserfs screwing up. That just doesn't make any sense. |
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eee
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:18 pm Post subject: me too |
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I've encouraged the rest of the development staff at my company to migrate to gentoo desktops. We had been quite happy until one of my co-workers power-cycled his desktop and found similar messages upon restart. He had been running gentoo-sources 2.4.20-r5 (I believe), so it's not as if this was an old release.
I've admonished him to not power cycle his PC anymore (unless necessary), but this is obviously not welcome advice when using a journalling fs. He had to re-install and stuck with reiserfs, I just hope he (or any of my other co-workers) won't regret that.
Until this happened, I'd been a happy reiserfs user and, honestly, I still am. Nevertheless, this is a real problem. How widespread it is, I can't say, but it does happen. |
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bos_mindwarp
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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I have last 3 installs gone, because reiserfs errors. 2 months ago I bought an WD Caviar SE with 8 mb cache, and checked the disc couple of times, and it was allright. Temperature in my case never goes over 36C, CPU temp is 40-41 on full load, HDD temperature is around 35-36C.
The installation lives about 1 month, then the filesystem gets corrupted somehow. I have hard to believe that this is happening because of faulty RAM or something, besides no other app is giving me problems, and if the memory was the problem, I'd found out about it sooner or later.
I feel that reiserfs would work nicely, I like the performance, but seems to me that I will just go with ext2 all around. What use is a journaling filesystem if it gets corrupted? |
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fizz
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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/me crosses fingers
i have gentoo on two systems, both with reiserfs and forunatly havent had any problems of yet. Its performance i cant judge because ive never had a linux box at 2.2ghz
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Ext3 is my safe bet for now.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The installation lives about 1 month, then the filesystem gets corrupted somehow. |
Considering how many possible reasons there are for this, I think it's unfair to just blame reiserfs. At least get some evidence suggesting it's reiserfs's fault before you make claims like that.
Well, that's what I think anyway. I'm not trying to start anything  |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I've had a huge problem with reiserfs and it keeps telling me its the harddisc when every other pgrogram out there says it is physically fine. I even had WD check it out (its a 120 gb 8 mb cache western digital) and they say physcially it is fine. So far I have no formatted it or anything because I have nothing to back the pertinent data up on and it has worked fine despite errors in reiserfsck. |
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Malakin
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| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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People who've had problems with reiser seem to be mostly (all?) using gentoo sources, maybe that's the root of the problem. I've been using reiser for several years on quite a few different systems and never had a problem although I'm more concerned with stability and use vanilla sources.
The last two times I installed Gentoo the link to reiserfsck was wrong, this could lead to problems for anyone who didn't fix it. |
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Ulukay
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/me got problems with ext3
a simple suse server on ext3 crashed because someone diconnected the tokenring cable 
now ALL servers are on reiserfs, without a problem
my two home pcs are also on reiserfs > no problem at all
but i've read that some people have got probs using reiserfs on hdds which are manually tuned with hdparm to max-performance
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| I'm running our Samba fileserver with gentoo, vanilla and ReiserFS. No problems (so far) |
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GenKreton
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I didn't manually tune my harddrive at all, in fact not even sure how to do it....nevermind safely. I started with the gentoo sources but upgraded to the vanilla 2.6 series and just recently the mm 2.6 series. Maybe sicne I started with gentoo-sources that could be the root of the problem. |
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Isaiah
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Rieserfs and gentoo-sources here - have only had one incident (while playing with KDE3.2) and riesefsck fixed it up as good as new  |
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GenKreton
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:20 pm Post subject: argh |
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| Code: | root@flash kreton # reiserfsck /dev/hdb3
reiserfsck 3.6.11 (2003 www.namesys.com)
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** If you are using the latest reiserfsprogs and it fails **
** please email bug reports to reiserfs-list@namesys.com, **
** providing as much information as possible -- your **
** hardware, kernel, patches, settings, all reiserfsck **
** messages (including version), the reiserfsck logfile, **
** check the syslog file for any related information. **
** If you would like advice on using this program, support **
** is available for $25 at www.namesys.com/support.html. **
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Will read-only check consistency of the filesystem on /dev/hdb3
Will put log info to 'stdout'
Do you want to run this program?[N/Yes] (note need to type Yes if you do):Yes
The problem has occurred looks like a hardware problem.
If you have bad blocks, we advise you to get a new hard
drive, because once you get one bad block that the disk
drive internals cannot hide from your sight, the chances
of getting more are generally said to become much higher
(precise statistics are unknown to us), and this disk drive
is probably not expensive enough for you to risk your time
and data on it. If you don't want to follow that advice,
then if you have just a few bad blocks, try writing to the
bad blocks and see if the drive remaps the bad blocks (that
means it takes a block it has in reserve and allocates it
for use for requests of that block number). If it cannot
remap the block, this could be quite bad, as it may mean
that so many blocks have gone bad that none remain in
reserve to allocate.
bread: Cannot read the block (29148965): (Input/output error).
Aborted
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But like I said it has been working fine. I was told rebuilding sb and/or the tree wouldn't help so I haven't. |
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bonsaikitten
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Well,
I've been using reiserfs for some time, and IMO it's the best hardware tester you can find. Where ext3 would slowly just get corruogdfghkls,b,x reiserfs would really stumble a lot earlier. It's faster but also more fragile (which is good since it detects b0rked hardware )
This was especially obvious with VIA chipsets where I could barely mount a reiser filesystem ... ext3 would copy thinks and then mangle them, reiser just died. |
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