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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 7:47 pm    Post subject: Development IDE Reply with quote

I'm used to using Windows XP for development so naturally I'm used to Visual Studio 6 and Visual Studio .Net...

Basically I'm looking for the Visual Studio equivelent in Linux, perferably with Intellisence (gotta love it)....


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KDevelop is what you seek.
However, I'd recommend that you try and get to know traditional UNIX editors and programming tools - vim/emacs, make, automake, autoconf...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh...as much as I'd like KDevelop to be great, I always end up going back to Anjuta.
Try Kdev, I guess, but switch to Anjuta when the bugs start rollin in...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kdevelop3 is the only way to program for Unix/Linux. I simply can't do it any other way anymore (except for small projects - and web projects - for those I use Quanta).

for a "semi" screenshot of kdevelop3 running on my Itanium look here: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=112156

There is an ebuild for the newest beta of Kdevelop - but you have to go manually merge it because it is masked out right now - but it does work great!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManicMailman wrote:
Ugh...as much as I'd like KDevelop to be great, I always end up going back to Anjuta.
Try Kdev, I guess, but switch to Anjuta when the bugs start rollin in...


I didn't like the old stable version of kdevelop, but gideon (aka new kdevelop.. complete rewrite and has been development for more than two years) is great =)

Also try eclipse. It's great as well, although I prefer kdevelop in C++, and eclipse in Java.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mingw developer studio... not open source (though free as in beer), not in portage, but a great and simple visual studio 6 work-alike
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManicMailman wrote:
Ugh...as much as I'd like KDevelop to be great, I always end up going back to Anjuta.
Try Kdev, I guess, but switch to Anjuta when the bugs start rollin in...


I just wish anjuta would work on my box since I'm using gnome. KDev does, but do I want to use QT ? ;)
Anjuta won't even produce proper empty projects for me atm.

As for vim... Don't try this unless you want to read the manual for even simple things like "How do I quit this?" (or kill it from another terminal). Software like that should be forbidden.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KDevelope 3 (gideon) and Qt are the is the only way to program for Linux IMO. I'll probably get shot by the die hards, but GUI programming is the future. Write deamons if you like, but for the sake of all that's holy, write a GUI interface for them. I'm having to write a few clients because Linux GUI support for them is bloody awful (Binary news reader/downlaoder, FTP server and client).
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think you will be happy with any of the linux IDE's. They are all poor compared to VS.NET.

Anjuta, KDevelop, and Eclipse are ok, but no where near being as feature rich and powerful as VS.NET.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried an alpha of Gideon and was still dissapointed (like, as far as I remember, you can't remove files from a project...wtf???) Maybe it has improved since then, I guess I'll give it another shot one of these days.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can definitely remove files.

I've been using 3.0 for a while now and it's much nicer than 2.x but some interface problems remain. The core is getting quite nice though. CVS integration is good, valgrind frontend is cool, projects now have debug/optimized/default build configurations, and KDevelop will even provide you precious templates to work on the evil gtk projects (as well as nearly everything else you'd like to do).

The automake manager is a dream come true. It allows you to do things like make multiple executables per directory through the use of targets and such. Sub-Projects are also easy to setup and function as expected. Making these sub-projects work together (include files from one sub project in another, libs from one project in another, etc) is also extremely simple now.

Intellisense is by no means anywhere close to what (currently) the Visual Assist plugin can do for VS.net. (The next visual studio will negate the need for visual assist all together ...)

All in all it's a good package and at least worth a try. And in the gentoo spirit if you have issues with it, post around a bit ;) Wouldn't want you to _have_ to use that gtk thing ...
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