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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:17 pm    Post subject: OOo Reply with quote

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ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge openoffice



VERY NICE :D

1.1 is a major improvement from the previous OOo versions....
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah right. The source is just 180 mb. ;) Ah, how I miss my fast connection... I once used to get 230 kbps. Now I am stuck with a 6 kbps connection. hehe

I downloaded and installed the binaries for openoffice 1.1 since the source wouldn't compile for some reason.

1.1 is simply superb!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vm. wrote:
Yeah right. The source is just 180 mb. ;) Ah, how I miss my fast connection... I once used to get 230 kbps. Now I am stuck with a 6 kbps connection. hehe

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==> PASV ... done.    ==> RETR OOo_1.1.0_source.tar.bz2 ... done.
Length: 189,164,050 (unauthoritative)

25% [========>                             ] 48,282,112     1.01M/s    ETA 02:13

</gloat> ;)

Now all I need is an Opteron cluster to be able to finish compiling it before Christmas.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, nice connect!:D

Yeah, the compile took over 2 days on this laptop... oh the pain.. :(

Edit: Well worth the wait, though ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just emerged it and installed. One thing bugs me thou. I still got this directory on my hd:
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/opt/OpenOffice.org1.0.3

Containing 102.8 MB of files (!?) Are these files still used or can I delete that dir.

This brings up another question I have. A qustion I'v been thinking a lot of lately. When doing a emerge -uvp world Does portage delete all the unnecesary files that the old veriosn of the package leave behind? Or do I still have files left from packages that I upgraded months ago. It's not that I lack of disk space. I just don't wan't to have files on my system that are to no good.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 Mbit/s? what connection have you got?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just a n00b but for me wget shows speed in [kM] bytes so that could be a 10Mbit/s connection at near max speed.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, OptOnline in NYC. 10Mbit/sec download, which I don't usually hit since nobody has uploads that fast (beside Sun, MS etc.). Found a wicked Gentoo mirror though, and they seem to max out my connection. Well worth the 40 bucks a month.

It's compiling now. Guess I'll go fishing or something. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

semiSfear wrote:

This brings up another question I have. A qustion I'v been thinking a lot of lately. When doing a emerge -uvp world Does portage delete all the unnecesary files that the old veriosn of the package leave behind? Or do I still have files left from packages that I upgraded months ago. It's not that I lack of disk space. I just don't wan't to have files on my system that are to no good.


You can safely kill everything in /var/db/pkg/ and /usr/portage/distfiles/ (which are 45M and 1.3G respectively on this machine). du -hs /whatever/dir will tell you exactly how much they're taking up. If you delete what's in distfiles, you'll have to download it again if you need to patch/upgrade/do whatever, so zapping it will save space, but maybe not time, depending on your connection. Or you can just blow away the big stuff that's rarely upgraded - XFree's a good contender, as are KDE/Gnome, Java files... ls -lS /usr/portage/distfiles/ | head shows OO.o, three tetexes, two javas, kernel sources, and gcc. Over 400 megs from just those 9.

I don't know what's in /opt/OO (I'll let you know in a week ;)), but that's a common install directory, so I wouldn't erase it yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that I know. What I ment was that it seems like portage leaves a lot of files from packages I just updated. For example, I emerge -uvp openssl earlier today and I got this message
Code:
You can now re-compile all packages that are linked against
OpenSSL 0.9.6 by using revdep-rebuild from gentoolkit:
# revdep-rebuild --soname libssl.so.0.9.6
# revdep-rebuild --soname libcrypto.so.0.9.6
After this, you can delete /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6 and /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6


This means that libcrypto.so.0.9.6 is just lying there. What about all the other 300-400 packages I have installed and get updated constantly. If portage leaves 1 file from every package it upgrades (1 file from the old version) that would make a lot of useless files just lying on my filesystem. In short my system will get slowly bloated with unused files and increase disk space, although disk space isn't an issue here. I just don't like useless files lying around everywhere.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree with you, semiSfear.. I thought portage 'safely removed' all previous versions of software upgraded... is this not true? Do we need to manually delete old versions of software?

would this perhaps need a new thread started? :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ixion wrote:
I totally agree with you, semiSfear.. I thought portage 'safely removed' all previous versions of software upgraded... is this not true? Do we need to manually delete old versions of software?

would this perhaps need a new thread started? :wink:


I'v been thinking about such a thread. So maybe some more "portage experts" could comment on it. When it comes to the upgrade of OOo, that is the only package I'v seen who have left so much files behind from the older package version. Some packages (do note some packages) seem to leave 1 or 2 files, it's not much like I said before but it still bugs me. And even if I'm sure which file or files the older package has left behind I don't dare to delete em. No one wan't a buggy system, no? :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ixion wrote:
I totally agree with you, semiSfear.. I thought portage 'safely removed' all previous versions of software upgraded... is this not true? Do we need to manually delete old versions of software?


Code:

tom@piglet tom $ more /etc/make.conf
# AUTOCLEAN enables portage to automatically clean out older or overlapping
#     packages from the system after every successful merge. This is the
#     same as running 'emerge -c' after every merge. Set with: "yes" or "no".
#     This does not affect the unpacked source. See 'noclean' below.
AUTOCLEAN="yes"


I'm not certain as to how much it cleans out, but I think the OpenSSL example might be an exception,
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It certanly didn't clean out OOo 1.0.3 :cry:
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm.. I was running openoffice-bin, so all I did was:
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emerge -C openoffice-bin && ac emerge openoffice


I don't see any previous instances. And come to think of it, when I updated to 0.9.7c OpenSSL, it cleaned that out, too. Maybe there's something going on with your system, semiSfear. Do you perhaps have 'Autoclean=off' in /etc/make.conf?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG! You are right. And I have no idea for how long. OK, so what do I do now. Now I got outdated files scattered all over the system probably. Any way to fix this?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Semisphere, did you unmerge the older version?

Code:
emerge unmerge openoffice-1.0.3-r1


[edit] nevermind. FYI
Code:
emerge -p clean
should clean out "old" files from your system.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just did. Said there was no outdated packages. And to old OOo dirs and files are still there + the OpenSSL file. But that file might be an exception. Does clean really delete all the unused files left by old packages... I don't think so
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe try re-emerging the packages (I know, OOo is a pain) with the 'autoclean=on' switch in /etc/make.conf, ie, no emerge -C. :

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nano -w /etc/make.conf
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emerge openssl openoffice


I hope this helps.. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No it didn't. And I have no idea for how long I had autoclean set to off. I might have emerged louds of packages with that option set to off :cry:
I feel like doing a fresh install.

A don't understand why that option is not set to on by default. Who dosn't wan't autocleaning actually
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay!! My make.conf had autoclean="yes" commented out. That sucks. I feel so dirty.

I still haven't emerged openoffice because the thought of it compiling makes me cringe. I know I could just emerge the binary version but I want to compile!! I want to compile!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vm. wrote:
Yeah right. The source is just 180 mb. ;) Ah, how I miss my fast connection... I once used to get 230 kbps. Now I am stuck with a 6 kbps connection. hehe


And it feels really good when the download is over but the file is corrupt and you have to download it all over again! So fun! :(
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because it was commented out does not mean it is not set. After all, there are defaults. For example, my SYNC= line is commented out, but it is obvious that it works (since I can sync). I think the default for autoclean is "yes", because I do know emerge has deleted (using emerge -C) an older package from my system after updates, yet that line is commented out in my make.conf.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a quick note, autoclean is similar to `emerge clean` except that it does it automatically when a package is emerged.

Don't feel like you're missing out by having autoclean off (I keep it turned off intentionally), you can get the same results by using `emerge clean`.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to give your system a nice update and tidy-up, I'd suggest the following:

Code:
emerge sync
emerge depclean
revdep-rebuild
emerge -uDv world


This tends to keep things nice and clean here. With regards to /opt/openoffice... whatever it was, that's almost certainly openoffice-bin - try emerge unmerge openoffice-bin and see what happens.
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