Masking Gnome 3

OldTango · l33t Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 718

Consolidating "masking gnome 3 issues into this thread for now. Made sticky. --pjp, 2014.01.08
Unstuck by request of a developer, as it is now obsolete. -- desultory, 2015/04-28

Gnome-3.8 is now stable but I wish to continue to use Gnome-2.32 on several of my systems for the time being. I have been trying to mask gnome-3.8 but can't seem to solve issues with the packages.

roki942 · Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:59 am Post subject:

You may want to take a look at your world file for any gnome items that will pull in upgrades.

gdm pulled in a whole bunch of 3.8 for me .... not having it there keeps it at 2.20.11 without it updating or needing to mask it

johnny99 · Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:23 am Post subject:

3.8 going stable is quite a bomb shell.

Searching my world file gave me some good hints, but I had to use trial and error.

I use KDE, but like Evolution for a mail user agent.

With gnome 3.8 requiring systemd to replace openrc and udev, I'm not going to do it.

My mask list is now pretty big.
>mail-client/evolution-3.0
>gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8
>gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0
>gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-3.6.2
=sys-apps/systemd-208-r2
gnome-base/gnome-menus:3
>=gnome-base/gconf-3.2
>gnome-base/libgnome-keyring-3.0
>gnome-extra/gconf-editor-3.0
>gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor-3.0
>x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-3.8
>=dev-libs/libgdata-0.13.0
>gnome-base/gnome-keyring-3.0

It seems I will have to migrate away from Evolution, unless gnome migrates away from the systemd requirement.

Tony0945 · Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:00 pm Post subject:

Complete update on the Gnome2 box. First I changed the profile from desktop/gnome to plain desktop using 'eselect profile`. The gnome profile kept tried to bring in gnome-common-3.7.4 even though I had it masked. I had made the following additions to /etc/oertage/package.mask

This is a compendium of blockers that I found in two posts in this forum. I added sensors-applet.

It seems to be working.

Oniryczny · Guru Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 419 Location: Poland

so... what is a need to be added to /etc/portage/package.mask to keep away from Gnome3 ?
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Tony0945 · Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:51 am Post subject:

Oniryczny · Guru Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 419 Location: Poland

but there is no such post... 6:00 P.M. ?
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epsilon72 · Guru Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 568

You two must live in different timezones, hence the "no 6pm". See this post.

Oniryczny · Guru Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 419 Location: Poland

so if I add all those to package.mask my Gnome2 will stay untouched and I won't be bothered about Gnome3 ?
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:50 pm Post subject:

Oniryczny · Guru Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 419 Location: Poland

one of the computers that I use is too weak to handle Gnome3 so I use Gnome2

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depontius · Advocate Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 3522

I've started another thread, "HowTo mask gnome-3.8" which might help. I'm sure it's neither complete nor comprehensive, but it works for the three deskside systems at my house. Feel free to post suggestions.

I don't actually use gnome, just some gnome packages that I happen to like. So I was quite unhappy when last Sunday the updates started changing my system into gnome/systemd.
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alcorel · n00b Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 67

if you need to reinstal gnome 2, use this file with a desktop profile:
/etc/portage/package.mask/package.mask.gnome3

artbody · Guru Joined: 15 Sep 2006 Posts: 494 Location: LB

i think the Gnome3 + systemd developers are infected by Tablet-Cellphone-Android Virus :twisted:

SO i switched to
lightdm as displaymanager
and enlightenment (16)

USE="-gnome -systemd ..."

sorry GNOME
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eccerr0r · Last edited by eccerr0r on Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:03 pm; edited 4 times in total

Gnome-3.6 was unstable and people had been using udev just fine with it, up until gnome-3.8 requires systemd.

However gnome-2.6.32 was stable and didn't need systemd, and now has been updated to gnome 3.8 which is an even bigger jump than from gnome-3.6.

Has anyone been able to clean up their use flags/masks to get a stable gnome-2.6.32 install once more, or will this be deprecated soon anyway? :(

Edit: changed title

Edit: More information:

The original Gentoo "release the hounds" mask change

Another thread about this issue (Merged to that thread. Trying to clean up some of the mess around masking Gnome 3. --pjp, 2014.01.08)
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Princess Nell · l33t Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 926

You mean Gnome 2.32? I expect it'll go away. And from what I've seen in portage, I don't think masking gnome3 is being made easy. I had the same idea, but it would lead to pretty unwieldy /etc/portage/package.* files.

The best option is to switch to a plain desktop profile, get rid of everything gnome and look at alternative desktop environments, or roll your own. There's easily more than a dozen useful window managers out there.

I switched to the mate overlay and am keeping some gnome2 and some gnome3 components. The package.mask file has 6 lines, and could probably be smaller if I got rid of gdm. package.accept_keywords had some 30-odd lines added for mate, that's about it.

eccerr0r · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:12 am Post subject:

Whoops, yes Gnome-2.32.

Yeah it will be quite a mess to mask. Though it may end up with a lot of blocks I wish real max version requirements were annotated in the ebuilds to automatically stay at a certain version.

My current worries: I am actually using Evolution and wonder what kind of a mess it will be if I switch to lxde. It's working just fine right now, including sync with my N900 so I wish I could keep it that way...

I guess I could keep one machine or a VM with gnome2 but it will be a pain to maintain that machine.

I finally got one VM running systemd, sort of... it seems very flaky so I'm hesitant putting it on my "production" machines just yet.
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aCOSwt · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:24 am Post subject:

Masking gnome-3 entirely ? : My 2cts :

1/ I'd prevent 3.8 by copying the old 3.8 mask in my /etc/portage/package.mask
2/ And prevent 3.6 by running stable.

BTW, I did not try, I do not run Gnome.
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eccerr0r · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:35 pm Post subject:

That looks like a really good start. I kind of figured a huge mask list is going to be needed. That splitup of all the gnome-games was kind of unexpected. Hmm...

[Edit]

Tried it, and looks like more is needed, despite not having 3.6 unstable enabled...
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steveL · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:54 pm Post subject:

I thought the profile was supposed to do this: isn't that the point of a systemd profile, after all?

I'd have thought the gnome3 profile would inherit from systemd, and things would be masked elsewhere, since they clearly cannot run without systemd, and the profile was put in place to ensure that systemd folks could set whatever crazy stuff they liked, especially wrt vendor lock-in, without affecting the rest of us.

eccerr0r · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:40 pm Post subject:

No, I'm not even worried about systemd at this point. I'd like to keep gnome-2 but the problem is that in the gnome profile, gnome3 is now stable so it will pick this up in updates. Gnome3 will then get systemd which is yet a different problem.
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aCOSwt · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:59 pm Post subject:

saellaven · l33t Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 654

If you're looking to stay on GNOME 2, here's my package.mask. There are likely duplicates since I grabbed two different lists a while ago and then added some more when 3.8 hit stable. You may or may not need to tweak the list and, keep in mind, GNOME 2 will likely be leaving the tree at some point. Further, this list may need to be updated every time a new package hits the system since the GNOME devs upstream chose to keep the same library names while breaking backward compatibility. You may wish to consider moving to Mate, as I have done, which is essentially GNOME 2 with the library names changed to not conflict with GNOME 3.

#FOAD
sys-apps/systemd

#
# This will mask GNOME 3.2 packages in portage
#
# Updated 2011-11-26
#

# GNOME 3.2 stuff
>=app-accessibility/caribou-0.4
app-admin/eselect-gnome-shell-extensions
>=app-misc/tracker-0.12
>=dev-libs/folks-0.6
>=dev-libs/libgdata-0.9
>=dev-python/pyatspi-2.2
>=gnome-base/gconf-3.2
>=gnome-base/gdm-3.2
>=gnome-extra/at-spi-2.2
gnome-extra/gnome-contacts
gnome-extra/gnome-documents
gnome-extra/gnome-shell-extensions
>=gnome-extra/nautilus-tracker-tags-0.12
gnome-extra/sushi
>=media-libs/clutter-1.7
>=media-libs/cogl-1.7
>=net-libs/gnome-online-accounts-3
>=x11-libs/libcryptui-3
>=x11-misc/alacarte-0.13.2-r50
>=app-accessibility/accerciser-3.2
# GNOME 3 core libs
>=dev-libs/libgweather-3.0
>=gnome-base/libgnomekbd-3.0
=media-libs/libcanberra-0.28-r4
# Core Applications
>=app-accessibility/orca-3.0
>=gnome-base/gdm-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-applets-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-keyring-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-menus-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-panel-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-session-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.0
>=gnome-base/libgnome-keyring-3.0
>=gnome-base/nautilus-3.0
>=x11-wm/metacity-2.34
>=x11-wm/mutter-3.0
# Extra Applications
>=app-arch/file-roller-3.0
>=app-cdr/brasero-3.0
>=app-crypt/seahorse-3.0
>=app-editors/gedit-3.0
>=app-editors/gedit-plugins-3.0
>=app-text/gtranslator-2.90
>=app-text/evince-3.0
>=dev-util/anjuta-3.0
>=app-pda/gtkpod-2.1.0
>=dev-util/devhelp-3.0
>=gnome-extra/drwright-3.0
>=gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-3.0
>=gnome-extra/evolution-exchange-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gcalctool-6.0
>=gnome-extra/gconf-editor-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-color-manager-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-games-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-games-extra-data-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.32.0-r300
>=gnome-extra/gnome-packagekit-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-tweak-tool-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-user-share-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-utils-3.0
#>=gnome-extra/gucharmap-3.0
>=gnome-extra/mousetweaks-3.0
>=gnome-extra/nautilus-sendto-3.0
gnome-extra/office-runner
>=gnome-extra/zenity-3.0
>=mail-client/evolution-3.0
>=media-gfx/eog-3.0
>=media-sound/rhythmbox-2.90
>=media-sound/sound-juicer-2.99
>=media-video/cheese-3.0
>=media-video/totem-3.0
>=net-analyzer/gnome-nettool-3.0
>=net-im/empathy-3.0
>=net-misc/vinagre-3.0
>=net-misc/vino-3.0
>=net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth-3.0
>=sys-apps/gnome-disk-utility-3.0.2-r300
>=www-client/epiphany-3.0
>=www-client/epiphany-extensions-3.0
>=x11-terms/gnome-terminal-3.0
# Documentation
>=gnome-extra/yelp-3.0
>=dev-util/gnome-devel-docs-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-user-docs-3.0
# NetworkManager
>=net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.99
>=net-misc/networkmanager-pptp-0.8.99
>=net-misc/networkmanager-openconnect-0.8.99
>=net-misc/networkmanager-openvpn-0.8.99
>=net-misc/networkmanager-openswan-0.8.99
>=net-misc/networkmanager-vpnc-0.8.99
>=gnome-extra/nm-applet-0.8.99
# Meta packages
>=gnome-base/gnome-core-apps-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-extra-apps-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-core-libs-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-fallback-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-light-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-3.0
# Misc applications
>=gnome-extra/nautilus-open-terminal-0.19
>=app-mobilephone/gnome-phone-manager-0.67

#no gnome3
>=dev-libs/libgweather-3.0
>=gnome-base/libgnomekbd-3.0
#=media-libs/libcanberra-0.28-r4
# Core Applications
>=app-accessibility/orca-3.0
>=gnome-base/gdm-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-applets-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-keyring-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-menus-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-panel-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-session-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.0
>=gnome-base/libgnome-keyring-3.0
>=gnome-base/nautilus-3.0
>=x11-wm/metacity-2.34
>=x11-wm/mutter-3.0
# Extra Applications
>=app-arch/file-roller-3.0
>=app-cdr/brasero-3.0
>=app-crypt/seahorse-3.0
>=app-editors/gedit-3.0
>=app-editors/gedit-plugins-3.0
>=app-text/gtranslator-2.90
>=app-text/evince-3.0
>=dev-util/anjuta-3.0
>=app-pda/gtkpod-2.1.0
>=dev-util/devhelp-3.0
>=gnome-extra/drwright-3.0
>=gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-3.0
>=gnome-extra/evolution-exchange-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gcalctool-6.0
>=gnome-extra/gconf-editor-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-color-manager-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-games-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-games-extra-data-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.32.0-r300
>=gnome-extra/gnome-packagekit-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-tweak-tool-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-user-share-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-utils-3.0
#>=gnome-extra/gucharmap-3.0
>=gnome-extra/mousetweaks-3.0
>=gnome-extra/nautilus-sendto-3.0
gnome-extra/office-runner
>=gnome-extra/zenity-3.0
>=mail-client/evolution-3.0
>=media-gfx/eog-3.0
>=media-sound/rhythmbox-2.90
>=media-sound/sound-juicer-2.99
>=media-video/cheese-3.0
>=media-video/totem-3.0
>=net-analyzer/gnome-nettool-3.0
>=net-im/empathy-3.0
>=net-misc/vinagre-3.0
>=net-misc/vino-3.0
>=net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth-3.0
>=sys-apps/gnome-disk-utility-3.0.2-r300
>=www-client/epiphany-3.0
>=www-client/epiphany-extensions-3.0
>=x11-terms/gnome-terminal-3.0
# Documentation
>=gnome-extra/yelp-3.0
>=dev-util/gnome-devel-docs-3.0
>=gnome-extra/gnome-user-docs-3.0
# NetworkManager
>=net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.99
>=net-misc/networkmanager-pptp-0.8.99
>=net-misc/networkmanager-openconnect-0.8.99
>=net-misc/networkmanager-openvpn-0.8.99
>=net-misc/networkmanager-openswan-0.8.99
>=net-misc/networkmanager-vpnc-0.8.99
>=gnome-extra/nm-applet-0.8.99
# Meta packages
>=gnome-base/gnome-core-apps-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-extra-apps-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-core-libs-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-fallback-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-light-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-3.0
# Misc applications
>=gnome-extra/nautilus-open-terminal-0.19
>=app-mobilephone/gnome-phone-manager-0.67
>=app-accessibility/caribou-0.4
app-admin/eselect-gnome-shell-extensions
>=app-misc/tracker-0.12
>=dev-libs/folks-0.6
>=dev-libs/libgdata-0.9
>=dev-python/pyatspi-2.2
>=gnome-base/gconf-3.2
>=gnome-extra/at-spi-2.2
gnome-extra/gnome-contacts
gnome-extra/gnome-documents
gnome-extra/gnome-shell-extensions
>=gnome-extra/nautilus-tracker-tags-0.12
gnome-extra/sushi
>=media-libs/clutter-1.7
>=media-libs/cogl-1.7
>=net-libs/gnome-online-accounts-3
>=x11-libs/libcryptui-3
>=x11-misc/alacarte-0.13.2-r50
>=app-accessibility/accerciser-3.2

#no gnome 3.8
>mail-client/evolution-3.0
>gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-3.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8
>gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0
>gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-3.6.2
=sys-apps/systemd-208-r2
gnome-base/gnome-menus:3
>=gnome-base/gconf-3.2
>gnome-base/libgnome-keyring-3.0
>gnome-extra/gconf-editor-3.0
>gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor-3.0
>x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-3.8
>=dev-libs/libgdata-0.13.0
>gnome-base/gnome-keyring-3.0
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Princess Nell · l33t Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 926

This may help with Evolution: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Evolution#Using_Evolution_Outside_Of_Gnome.

I haven't had much luck with package masks like saellaven's. Sorting out the blockers was a nightmare.

Tony0945 · Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:06 am Post subject:

See this thread https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-977288-highlight-.html which addresses both Mate and keeping Gnome 2. I have done both on two seperate machines, but I never used evolution, just cursed it's long builds.