Best C++ IDE?

nsahoo · l33t Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 618

I am on eclipse and find it useful - mainly nonobstructive :-)

I found kdevelop doing too many things for me without asking, like auto-conf, auto-make and all that stuff and I ran into problem with that .. I ran into some issues with anjuta as well .. I really tried to use it. but

.. or it is just may be that I have been using eclipse for java coding thats why I found cdt in eclipse to be the most convenient tool.

Does CDT run with eclipse 3.0 .. I thought it didn't run on anything over eclipse 2.1 .. :oops:

Professor Frink · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:30 am Post subject:

i seriously hope anjuta isn't dead, it's a great IDE and I see no reason to abandon it and start over. I still am using the gnome 2 port but just backing up a lot because it has a habbit of crashing.

PS anyone have any clues on templating a lookup table? that's what I have due thursday night at 1AM (well really friday morning) EDT
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Rhino · Apprentice Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 177

[quote="nsahoo"
Does CDT run with eclipse 3.0 .. I thought it didn't run on anything over eclipse 2.1 .. :oops:

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what release of eclipse 3 and cdt you are using ??
you are installing cdt through the update manager ??
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Professor Frink · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:24 am Post subject:

update manager actually works? everytime i clicked something in that shitty program everything went blank or it just closed the window, seemed very flaky for me to write code in nevermind have it update itself
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Rhino · Apprentice Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 177

tactless · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:10 am Post subject:

What useful add-ons for vim are there for programming?
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nsahoo · l33t Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 618

Roguelazer · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:24 am Post subject:

Anjuta is -not- dead. Check the CVS. This is the most recent entry in the ChangeLog:

[code]2003-10-15 Naba Kumar <naba@gnome.org>

* src/anjuta_cbs.c: Used ALT+number for editor tab browsing, instead
of CTRL+number.[/close]

That's only a few days ago!

And look here! There is a cvs tarball from today! It's most certainly not dead...
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BenjyD_UK · n00b Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 44

piefke · n00b Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 57

in the moment i'm using anjuta.
there isn't a cvs-ebuild anywhere, or?
asked cause the 1.1.97 crashes sometimes (everytime i type a 'p' *g* ).

hmm .. after reading here i will checkout eclipse

Rhino · Apprentice Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 177

nsahoo · l33t Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 618

sheepdog · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:46 pm Post subject: vim

The combination of vim (gvim), exuberant-ctags and GNU's Global Source Code Tag System (http://www.gnu.org/software/global/) is unbeatable. But it takes some time to learn enough of the actions to make development go smoothly.

Rhino · Apprentice Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 177

MADcow · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:53 pm Post subject:

i use vim (like a real man, RAWR)
but... as far as IDEs go, anjuta rocks.

cfool · n00b Joined: 20 May 2003 Posts: 19

Id have to say eclipse also. Its excellent for java development. And yes it is slow on startup but SWT(alternative to swing) makes it a lot faster and if you have a decent pooter you shouldnt notice much(if any) slowdown.

Havent really used the cdt much tho, as far as I know they have yet to implement code insight etc
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Jesse · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 24 Apr 2002 Posts: 148

eh, vim and the old stuff works and all, but I find those tools more easily usable when you have to 'edit' code already written. Starting from scratch with those tools is combersome for me. Hey, so I like to actually have my keys do what the keyboard says ... i.e., if I hit 'x' I want to type an 'x' not delete the character and then worry about old vim's that insert random junk when you hit the arrow keys. </rant>

Anyhow, let's all be realistic here. I've worked in the real world ... I know people who work in the real world ... and I've had people tell me about the real world ...

If you're 13 and learning vim. Ok, cool. If you're 20 and asking this question get a life and learn some things that will help you. Yes, vim/emacs are still in use. But they are used for maintaing/porting aging Solaris/Unix systems to newer 21st century systems -- so people can ditch those things. All IT related job recruiters that I've had interviews with or know or have heard about ask about your 'tools' experience. That means they want you to know Eclipse, Jbuilder, Visual Studio, even Kdevelop, and how your 'make' or 'ant' system works.

It's well past the 'day' that people frown upon a new hire if they don't know vim. Will you get beat up after lunch on the playground (if you have a real spiffy job) ... maybe

but you won't _not_ get hired for it.

Anyhow, KDevelop 3 (that's the real name now -- not gideon) is nice and has the following very nice features:
- includes templates and stuff for other projects like Gnome and company
- lots of language choices
- nice interface as of late
- nice tools integration like valgrind, doxygen, and cvs
- simplistic problem reporter that lets you see errors before you compile
- multiple languages per project !
- autocompletion for kdelibs and qt and _any_ other thing you want
- very nice internal documentation
- language specific documention is somewhat good
- nice tutorials written by KDE gurus that show you how to do things in KDE

Again, do yourself a favor and learn an IDE and its build environment. Not vim/emacs just because you're afraid someone will steal your lunch money. If you happen to like to remember the 10 different modes your editor can be in, while having it serving you coffee, downloading muzak, and hosting your webpage and its own OS then sure ... go with the other guys

Rhino · Apprentice Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 177

MADcow · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:35 pm Post subject:

Jesse: sorry.... i just said that i prefer VIM... i don't use it because i'm afraid of what people say (although if you feel THAT strongly maybe i'll STOP using it because of what people say)
you do have some valid points though...

Jesse · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 24 Apr 2002 Posts: 148

pfff

Don't worry. You're entitled to use whatever you'd like and no I won't make you switch. It's more of an issue with the whole 'culture' about "which is best" that's all.

I only try to give relevant reasons as to why one would choose otherwise. For the record, if you're coding in Java I've found Eclipse nice too. I chose Eclipse over JBuilder mostly because on my older PIII Eclipse was definately more responsive and that is a big plus in my book. I've also heard a great many good thing about Intelli-J. Both offer great amounts of refactoring tools and lots of facilities that will write monkey code for you. Both offer all the benefits (and then some) for Java as KDevelop does for C++ (mentioned above).

MADcow: as long as you yourself have reasons to use something and you're productive and happy then fine

Just be fair and give your reasons for using it so that another can make a more informed choice. No harm intended

MADcow · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:53 pm Post subject:

cool

i'll give the ones you mentioned a try, they seem interesting.

Professor Frink · Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:25 am Post subject:

no word on the next anjuta release?
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LJ · Apprentice Joined: 27 Dec 2002 Posts: 156

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned jedit. It's pretty swank, very configurable, light weight (well, relative to eclipse although it doesn't really support "projects" as well).

It's optimal for java projects (enen larger ones) but it doesn't seem as well suited for large c++ projects.

brsett · n00b Joined: 28 Mar 2003 Posts: 63

Kylix -- oh wait you didn't want to pay money. Emacs will do the same (will actually do it better), but it will cost you the $600 in time to configure it all.