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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:20 am    Post subject: Best C++ IDE? Reply with quote

I use anjuta 1.1.97 but it seems like the project is dead and it's kinda buggy, anyone have any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

emacs + ecb.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vim + lh-cpp
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kdevelop-cvs, aka gideon. It's vastly different from the released version of kdevelop. I'd have to say it's the best C++ IDE handsdown.

Even better than kdevelop is Eclipse. However, it's better for Java than for C++.

I really don't use an IDE though. I use vim. vim+a terminal window plz thx :)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shm wrote:
I really don't use an IDE though. I use vim. vim+a terminal window plz thx :)


s/vim/emacs/g and me too. Although I make decent use of gdb as well when necessary. I don't really feel the need for GUI IDE's.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three words: vim

If you must have a GUI, gvim.

If you must have an IDE, I think that KDevelop + KVim are interesting. Seriously, vim's usefulness is not to be underestimated.

Naturally, Emacs might also be an interesting solution. I'm not familiar with it...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, i really LOVE anjuta, but indeed, the gnome-2 versions are pretty unstable. Therefor i'm using anjuta 1.0.2 atm.

I know, it's a shame to use an gtk1 IDE :oops:
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Best C++ IDE? Reply with quote

Professor Frink wrote:
I use anjuta 1.1.97 but it seems like the project is dead and it's kinda buggy, anyone have any suggestions?


You decided that with a quick look on the website?

Anjuta 2 is in full development, just because there aren't releases every week doesn't mean that anything happens...

To answer your question:
KDevelop (Gideon) or Anjuta is what I would use. I currently don't use any of them since they are both too freaking buggy and none of them has working templates for SDL-projects.

KDevelop is more suited for doing KDE projects and Ajuta is more of a GTK/Gnome fame.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using Anjuta, I love it. Using the ~x86 version. However, I'm slowly moving to Vim (however I don't know how to use the useful parts of it >_>)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Best C++ IDE? Reply with quote

maxmc wrote:
Professor Frink wrote:
I use anjuta 1.1.97 but it seems like the project is dead and it's kinda buggy, anyone have any suggestions?


You decided that with a quick look on the website?

Anjuta 2 is in full development, just because there aren't releases every week doesn't mean that anything happens...

To answer your question:
KDevelop (Gideon) or Anjuta is what I would use. I currently don't use any of them since they are both too freaking buggy and none of them has working templates for SDL-projects.

KDevelop is more suited for doing KDE projects and Ajuta is more of a GTK/Gnome fame.

IIRC Anjuta has been abandoned and the devs are working on a new project called "Scaffold"
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has there been a release of Scaffold? Is it still GTK2? That sucks that no more anjuta releases, I really love that IDE
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use eclipse with the ctd plugin!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is eclipse good? I heard it's programmed in java and really slow. I'm in a college computer science class so I dont have to do GUI stuff, just program and run make -k, maybe a little debugging, and the fact when there are compile errors you can click on them and jump to them like anjuta. I'm emerging eclipse-cdt now and seeing how that does

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Tried it and it is REALLY buggy and REALLY slow, doesn't even have an open command, spent 30 minutes playing around and couldn't get my c++ files open....not a good sign at all, guess I'm stuck with xemacs and buggy anjuta...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say gideon, I didnt get it yet since I dont want to sync with unstable sources, but I saw some nice things from it.
Though I will be trying Borland C++ Builder X soon.
It runs on linux, Mac OSX, Windows, and probably Solaris too.
Personally I like the Borland C++ Builder for windows, so I kindof hope they followed suit with this thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professor Frink wrote:
is eclipse good?

yes
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[EDIT]
Tried it and it is REALLY buggy and REALLY slow, doesn't even have an open command, spent 30 minutes playing around and couldn't get my c++ files open....not a good sign at all, guess I'm stuck with xemacs and buggy anjuta...

yes it is slow since its built on java, but it pays of... it works great for having many files open and switching from side to side (navigator on the left hand side), finding the function you want on that file (on the right hand side), easy targeting of build erros as well as tips for solution, mouseover tips etc etc.
I currently use it for programming with java (eclipse 3.0) but last year i used it to program with C (eclipse 2.1 with cdt 1.1, although emacs was enough for what i wanted) and the only bugs i found were trying to debug C in eclipse (i don't know if they were even bugs! i just messed around trying to figure out how thet part worked).
As they say "not knowing is the same as not seeing"..

PS: Professor Fink to open a c++ file, first open c/c++ prespective, create a project (it's nothing more than a dir) and create/import your files.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the closest IDE to something like Microsoft's Visual Studios C++ component?

I only ask, because I learned C++ on that in school, and I found many features, such as automatic completition (typing "pointer->" would pop up a box that had all the options for said pointer), and just the way the windows were organized. Yeah, Microsoft may have made it, but I think it's one thing they designed well, at least the GUI part. Also, don't tell me vim or emacs, I want an IDE, not a text editor (if I have X running, why should I want a CLI text editor for something more than a few changes here and there?).
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, kdevelop 2.1.5 does auto-completion for a small part (for what you wrote only)
I hope gideon does better, but the Borland I mentionned should do the trick.
Havent tried eclipse though, should do that someday :)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professor Frink wrote:
is eclipse good? I heard it's programmed in java and really slow. I'm in a college computer science class so I dont have to do GUI stuff, just program and run make -k, maybe a little debugging, and the fact when there are compile errors you can click on them and jump to them like anjuta. I'm emerging eclipse-cdt now and seeing how that does

[EDIT]
Tried it and it is REALLY buggy and REALLY slow, doesn't even have an open command, spent 30 minutes playing around and couldn't get my c++ files open....not a good sign at all, guess I'm stuck with xemacs and buggy anjuta...


I dunno if you're considering vim or not, but if you want to jump to the errors when you try to compile something with a make file... use the command :make from within vim and it will try to build the program and hop the the line with the first error given. Really handy.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anjuta isn't dead. It also offers the best functions. It has auto-complete for library functions, your functions and your variables. Can't beat that...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eclipse (the most recent binary release) did nothing but crash for me. I got nowhere fast with it, even after 30 minutes. So I'm sticking with emacs.

BTW, is there anyone that has use emacs thoroughly (i.e. has written their own dotemacs file, knows a lot of the key bindings, has used it in a big project) and has also used vim to the same extent? I'd like to know the pros and cons of both from someone who actually knows both applications well. For a long time I've suspected that vim users don't really know what they are missing with emacs, since they may never have given it a fair shot. But then again, if vim really is better than emacs, then this I want to see!! Emacs does absolutely everything I want it to (after learning to customise it properly) and I really would like to know if vim is better for factual reasons, not opinion.
I haven't used vim much at all, so I don't want to claim either way.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think Vim is a lot easier to understand. However, I haven't really delved into all it's 00b3|2 features, yet...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use both about the same. I prefer vim because of the different modes et al. The C-blah's in emacs are all too much. And gvim looks extremely good, but Xemacs looks fresh out of a 1980's era movie.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mingw developer studio, version 0.91

Just download the slackware binaries from their site, they work perfectly here...

It's a VC++ 6 work-alike

http://www.parinya.ca/
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roguelazer wrote:
...but Xemacs looks fresh out of a 1980's era movie.


Agreed, that's why I use emacs instead of Xemacs :wink: ... well, that and the bugs...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Best C++ IDE? Reply with quote

NuclearFusi0n wrote:
IIRC Anjuta has been abandoned and the devs are working on a new project called "Scaffold"

Is this really true? It would be a shame since I really like Anjuta.

I really haven't looked at this, but the one thing I could find was this:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2003-August/msg00027.html

In that posting, it says:
"In the beginning, there was gIDE. Then later on anjuta appeared. At one point a merger between these two projects was announced: anjuta2..
Unfortunately, the merge never really happened due to lack of interest and the Anjuta team decided to go for a GNOME2 port instead. So recently we changed the name of the project from anjuta2 to scaffold to avoid any confusion in the name and distance us from it."

As I see it, that would suggest that there is a separate Anjuta team still working on Anjuta, and a different team working on Scaffold.
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