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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:17 pm    Post subject: PCMCIA WLAN Card freezes Gentoo Reply with quote

Hi folks!

I've got an IBM TP R31 with an Intel Mainboard.
My WLAN Cards are the mysterious Belkin version 2 card and the 3Com with retractable antenna. Both with ATMEL chipsets...

I use the following:

2.4.22 ck-kernel
actual stable pcmcia-cs ebuild,
current atmelwlandrivers cvs-snapshot from sourceforge

when I insert one of those cards, my computer completly freezes!
only turning it of via pressing the power-button for 4 secs does something...
the computer freezes even before syslog-ng can write to /var/log/messages (or before tail can output it... :wink: )
i dont know what to do...
tried other kernels (2.6beta6 and 2.6beta8), same problem.

first i tought, it could be a resource problem (it seems, that 3 devices share irq 11, one is the pcmcia bus...) but when i inserted an intel e100 pcmcia lan card, it works fine...

anybody any ideas?

greetings,

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that you haven't seen anything interesting in the logs after a reboot?

I fought with this too. Try this:

-Make sure that pcmcia is _not_ automatically started at boot (by using 'rc-update remove pcmcia')
-reboot
-load the pcmcia module with 'modprobe pcmcia_core probe_mem=0'
-start the pcmcia stuff with '/etc/init/pcmcia start'
-load whatever modules don't autoload _before_ inserting the card - ie 'modprobe orinoco' and modprobe 'orinoco_cs', or whatever they are for your card
-insert the card

If this doesn't work, there is some funny stuff you can try with memory usage options. Try the above first, though. If it works, you can automate the process easily enough.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi quickbrownfox!

Thanx for the answer, but this did not work..

The logs show absolutely nothing while/after inserting the card.

One thing still wonders me...:

Emerging pcmcia-cs... it says: turn pcmcia supprot in the kernel off.
If I do that, /etc/init.d/pcmcia start doesn't work, it says, I either need kernel-pcmcia or the pcmcia-cs package...

if I compile pcmcia support as module, then the pcmcia service won't start either, but pcmcia_core lets start itself via modprobe. inserting the card after that (without having called the init-script pcmcia, because it fails), freezes the computer,too.

so, compiling the pcmcia support into the kernel (not as module) the pcmcia init script starts fine, but so, I can't modprobe pcmcia_core before (sure, because the module does not exists).
then it freezes, too.

hmm.. for me, it seems I have a general problem with pcmcia? but on the other side, the intel e100 works fine.... :?


okay, now what about the memory stuff you mentioned? :D
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WhiteKnight wrote:
Hi quickbrownfox!

One thing still wonders me...:

Emerging pcmcia-cs... it says: turn pcmcia supprot in the kernel off.
If I do that, /etc/init.d/pcmcia start doesn't work, it says, I either need kernel-pcmcia or the pcmcia-cs package...


okay, now what about the memory stuff you mentioned? :D
I only have experience with the pcmcia-cs package, not the kernel pcmcia. Let me get this straight...if you turn off the kernel support, you can emerge pcmcia-cs, but /etc/init.d/pcmcia start doesn't work? That's quite odd.

Unfortunately, my laptop hard drive just died today (makes a horrible clicking sound :cry: ), so I can't look at the memory stuff. If I were you, I'd try to figure out why the 'pcmcia start' doesn't work with the pcmcia-cs package.

If you'd like to pursue the memory thing, search on linux google for 'pcmcia include memory' and you'll see what other people did. It's a bit involved.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading and trying for several hours without success... at least I'm sure, it has to be that mysterious "memory thing" :wink:

Now, it's almost time to get up... have to get some sleep :)

I'll write here, if I can solve this weird problem...

WK
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 8:34 am    Post subject: laptop memory Reply with quote

I'm not sure if this is what quickbrownfox was referring to...and this is supposed to be fore a dell laptop, but have a look at it

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=9204&highlight=dell+wireless+memory

I've had luck with that trick in the past
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 12:21 pm    Post subject: it works Reply with quote

finally, I got it working!! :)

i'll write how to do that in a couple of hours, now, the real life calls...

thanx for the suggestions!!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 6:02 pm    Post subject: the solution Reply with quote

so, the guide for troubleshooting the freezing with pcmcia-cards is there:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=607232#607232
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent job! Nice to see that info gathered in one spot. Maybe something for the gentoo newletter?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm... where can someone suggest things for the newsletter?
didn't found anythink...
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