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beijingjj Apprentice
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:58 am Post subject: Is there a Chinese Input Wiki or HOWTO? |
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I've been trying to find a Wiki or howto on how to setup Chinese input and display in Gentoo. My Internet searching turns up http://dev.gentoo.org/~liquidx/chinesehowto2/ but I see that this is several years old and I'm afraid there is probably new info available.
I would like to be able to input Chinese in KDE into my web browser and instant messenger.
Thanks. |
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i13m n00b
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 46 Location: UK / China PR
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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我用的是scim和gnome, 你可以看看scim和scim-gentoo |
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akar Bodhisattva
Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 348 Location: HKSAR,China
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beijingjj Apprentice
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I think it is time to have a wiki page on this topic. |
I totally agree! If I can manage to pull together some basic steps I will post them but I usually get things working by trial and error without a deep enough understanding to post a meaningful howto.
By the way, the first link you posted is about Chinese input but the last three bring up topics totally unrelated. I wonder if the indexing in the database got screwed up. Here are the topics pulled up by the last 3 links:
1. gentoo primary master, win2k server primary slave help meh
2. GCC 3.3.1... problemi?
3. NASA going to wipe out human race
Meanwhile I'm looking to see what I can get done with the first link. And I am unable to display any of the Chinese posted by the first person to reply except for one character ni3. |
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i13m n00b
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akar Bodhisattva
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beijingjj Apprentice
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks to all, I jumped around a bit between these references and have gotten scim to work in kde. But I still have a problem. My font display is not quite working right. Normally if I view a page in Chinese I have to expand it quite a bit (CTRL-+ in seamonkey) to make it legible, and the browser seems to choose different fonts mid-sentence. For example, for the words |
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akar Bodhisattva
Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 348 Location: HKSAR,China
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:34 am Post subject: |
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beijingjj wrote: | Thanks to all, I jumped around a bit between these references and have gotten scim to work in kde.
...My font display is not quite working right....
By the way, I am primarily using simplified Chinese and am keeping English as my base language but would like them all to display properly.
PS - Here is a screenshot of what I'm talking about: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8816819@N06/538630998/ |
Now come to the easy part, after install some Chinese fonts, and a few step find tune through fontconfig:
Install Chinese fonts
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Code: | # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS='~*' emerge media-fonts/wqy-bitmapfont |
* you can get more information on the other font arphicfonts, which i also recommended in post: [solved] 肥腫難耐的abcd
Font Config
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I left this room <Blank> ^_^, as for your case. Please feel free to come here for any Open source Chinese Desktop Environment issues. |
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beijingjj Apprentice
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Install Chinese fonts
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Code: | # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS='~*' emerge media-fonts/wqy-bitmapfont |
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Thanks, I tried this and no change.
Quote: | * you can get more information on the other font arphicfonts, which i also recommended in post: [solved] 肥腫難耐的abcd |
I had already installed this one before but I believe this is a ** font, isn't it?
I noticed just now that scim will not go to Chinese mode when I'm in openoffice. Do I need to do more configuration to allow this or is it simply impossible?
Another new issue that seems to have developed as a result of enabling Chinese: I can't run acroread anymore, it segfaults on me every time. Has anyone else encountered this? |
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akar Bodhisattva
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Proper Locale Setting
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Now i think it is the locale setting problem, i would predict you are using a non 'zh_' one? for example 'en_UK', etc.
Here is a possible way to get SCIM work under this situation, you should read this post: 我的中文 設置 撮要
Since that setting everything to Chinese(the interface, currency, print paper size), might not you want, so comment out the following two lines, and one extra line, in the .xinitrc file,
Quote: | #export LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8
#export LANGUAGE=zh_TW
export LC_CTYPE="zh_CN.UTF-8" #It means when i am inputting words, i want to input chinese also. |
** You can find more about your system's locale capability and current setting by this two command:
Code: | $ locale
$ locale --all |
After this, if openoffice still not luck working with SCIM, try with a Chinese locale:
Code: | $ LANG=zh_CN sowriter |
Acrobat Reader
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Acroread has a bundle of Asian fontset for support the CJK, might it cause the problem? try to issue fire it up under the console command, error messages are there if it has change to say something before die.
Code: | # test 1: see if any helpful msg are given
$ acroread
# test2: see if a pure non Chinese environment, will make it happy.
$ LANG=C acroread
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FontConfig
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I can see there are colors around some characters, e.g. "嘛", you can fix it by turn the sub-pixel off, via qtconfig, or directly though this command:
Quote: | # ln -sv ../conf.avail/10-no-sub-pixel.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/ |
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beijingjj Apprentice
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Since that setting everything to Chinese(the interface, currency, print paper size), might not you want, so comment out the following two lines, and one extra line, in the .xinitrc file,
Quote: | #export LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8
#export LANGUAGE=zh_TW
export LC_CTYPE="zh_CN.UTF-8" #It means when i am inputting words, i want to input chinese also. |
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Actually I only modified my .kderc to put this line:
Code: | LC_CTYPE="zh_CN.UTF8"
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I never specified LANG or LANGUAGE
Should that be the same as modifying my .xinitrc?
Quote: | After this, if openoffice still not luck working with SCIM, try with a Chinese locale:
Code: | $ LANG=zh_CN sowriter |
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Tried this, no change.
Quote: | Code: | # test 1: see if any helpful msg are given
$ acroread
# test2: see if a pure non Chinese environment, will make it happy.
$ LANG=C acroread
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acroread is actually a script and buried in it somewhere must be the call to the actual executable but I haven't found it yet. No change when trying this against the script, though.
Concerning fonts, what determines which application uses which Chinese font? I've installed a bunch of fonts from portage but the Chinese fonts displayed in Mozilla do not change at all.
Likewise I tried to remove this japanese font:
Code: | media-fonts/kochi-substitute |
and after I did that when I invoke "scim" I get all squares instead of some characters and some dots. That suggests that the system is trying to use this Japanese font, and not the Chinese ones. That would explain why I get dots instead of some characters. In fact, I'm looking closer now and I see that it only displays traditional characters. Where is should display a simplified character it just puts a dot. Where is this decision on font selection made? Can I assign priorities somewhere? |
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